Why your SUV sucks in the mountains

My problem has been torque at times. Modified my forester and I make over 300 at the wheels. With snow tires I can drift at times if it’s boosting. But it’s fun


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Originally Posted by Rideski

I love how this thread dissing on suvs turned into another suv tire thread
Five stars
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#cantkeepagoodmaggotdown

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The first post of this thread is specifically about tires......


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Originally Posted by whyturn

My problem has been torque at times. Modified my forester and I make over 300 at the wheels. With snow tires I can drift at times if it’s boosting. But it’s fun


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That does sound fun. I'd just get in trouble with a car like that though.

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

if you your work is driving then you clock the big numbers, I now remember a guy who drove the bankers dispatch carrying just some paper files every day from PG to Valemont, a 600 km round trip every day with no stop lights, in pretty short time buddy had an 03 VW TDi with 650,000 kms on the clock

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Thats over 4 years of driving. 600/day x 5 days = 3000/week x 50 weeks = 150,000/year

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Originally Posted by whyturn

My problem has been torque at times. Modified my forester and I make over 300 at the wheels. With snow tires I can drift at times if it’s boosting. But it’s fun


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I miss my turbo wagon. No nannies not even traction control. Needed a 6 speed but the torque in 2nd and 3rd was addictive

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Originally Posted by snowaddict91

That does sound fun. I'd just get in trouble with a car like that though.

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i've still got a 2008 FXT 5MT, stock power with suspension and steering mods. it is an extremely fun canyon car, but with snow tires it's almost anticlimactic as it doesn't break free in the pow.

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Originally Posted by nickwm21

The first post of this thread is specifically about tires......


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Right, it’s about a corolla with snow tires, therefore mocking suvs. Hense the title of the thread, your suv sucks. The last many posts have been about suvs.

the original post is so dumb. of course a car with snow tires is going to be better in the snow than a car with summer tires. I dont think anyone looking for 4x4 or awd for their winter car is thinking, man, I'm really just looking for the car I can drive through a blizzard in the mountains on summer tires.

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Originally Posted by blackalps

the original post is so dumb. of course a car with snow tires is going to be better in the snow than a car with summer tires. I dont think anyone looking for 4x4 or awd for their winter car is thinking, man, I'm really just looking for the car I can drive through a blizzard in the mountains on summer tires.

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You obviously haven't driven up Little Cottonwood Canyon in SLC, UT on a pow day, haha.

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Originally Posted by 3PinGrin

You obviously haven't driven up Little Cottonwood Canyon in SLC, UT on a pow day, haha.

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And one idiot on all seasons screws it up for everyone


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Originally Posted by whyturn

And one idiot on all seasons screws it up for everyone

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We are on the same page there, just addressing blackalps "anyone" comment.

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Originally Posted by whyturn

And one idiot on all seasons screws it up for everyone


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I mean as long as he's behind me in line that's fine.

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Originally Posted by blackalps

the original post is so dumb. of course a car with snow tires is going to be better in the snow than a car with summer tires. I dont think anyone looking for 4x4 or awd for their winter car is thinking, man, I'm really just looking for the car I can drive through a blizzard in the mountains on summer tires.

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uhmm... literally everyone thinks that.

(other than us, of course)

and it's because everything comes oem with all seasons (that are basically summers with better pr)

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

and it's because everything comes oem with all seasons (that are basically summers with better pr)

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Speaking of summers with better PR - has anyone driven what appears to be 3pmsf certified tires with 4-season mileage warranties? These do not look like snow tires to me, and may be de-valuing the mark? Of course, if they perform like the marketing language suggests, they're snow tires you can drive for 60k at any temperature


3PMSF passenger-car tires:
Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady
Hankook Kinergy 4S (Canada only)
Michelin CrossClimate + (limited sizes available)
Nokian WRG3
Toyo Celsius
Vredestein Quatrac5

^^^ I started a thread on "all weather" tires, about the 3PMSF rated tires.

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Originally Posted by sruffian

Speaking of summers with better PR - has anyone driven what appears to be 3pmsf certified tires with 4-season mileage warranties? These do not look like snow tires to me, and may be de-valuing the mark? Of course, if they perform like the marketing language suggests, they're snow tires you can drive for 60k at any temperature


3PMSF passenger-car tires:
Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady
Hankook Kinergy 4S (Canada only)
Michelin CrossClimate + (limited sizes available)
Nokian WRG3
Toyo Celsius
Vredestein Quatrac5

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Tire mileage warranties are about wear down to legal limit. Not snow perfomance.

It doesn't matter what tire it is if you're running it down to that it's going to suck in snow.

right but i've worn a winter tire down to that in 20k miles, cus it's 100 degrees here in the summer. Interested in the performance of the tires more than general observations on the marketing con here...

these things are at best unproven so will be sticking w snows and summers, personally. despite living with minimal storage space for things like 4 wheels and tires

2nd searching for el chupacabra’s thread. Some “all weather” tires have been around for over a decade, so not exactly unproven.

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Wheels:

Is there a good resource to know/understand what whee size will fit? Tire rack recommends a 15” wheel for that car, but oem is 16 or 17”. If I can find them at an acceptable $, I’d like to get second wheels for all my vehicles. I may between $50-60 to mount tires to my wheels.

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The main thing to consider when you go smaller is how much clearance you have with the brake housing inside the wheel. Our Alltrack has 17" stock and I got a steal on nice 16" aftermarket rims for Blizzaks. They barely fit over the brakes by a few mm.

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I have a suspicion that if I change my tires I will increase throughput. My Ford's engine power is enough, but often skidding in the mud. My friend advised me to put the chains on wheels, does that make sense?

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I don't know what your Ford is, but if it is an F-150 definitely check the clearance, especially on the brake lines up front. Your owners manual may even say not to use chains on specific size tires. The main thing is to visually check clearance and make sure they stay snug.