Got mitts thinking SX gloves for touring. Solid 9 in Hesta. Have mitts in L thinking L in glove. Thoughts?
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Got mitts thinking SX gloves for touring. Solid 9 in Hesta. Have mitts in L thinking L in glove. Thoughts?
That's what I didQuote:
Originally Posted by whyturn
(I look at the little "L" tag on my right mitten and always have a little WTF moment)
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Buy their water proofing sauce. Great stuff, not as waxy as sno seal.
Smells nice, does not feel greasy on your hands when applying it, works well.
I don't know why people use SnoSeal it's crap.
i haven't used anything yet (haven't used the gloves yet) and just realized i better get on that so i guess i will be looking into the manufacturer's recommended product.
Snoseal is just beeswax
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I expect their proprietary sauce is great, but I always have a tub of Snoseal around that I use on all sorts of boots and gloves, and it's working as we'll as ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyeaster
i didn't mean to disparage snoseal. i've used it for decades. i may use it on the gloves after all due to time and money. i frequently babble. i mostly just realized that it's time to get my shit out and get ready.
Wish I had checked this thread out before last week, when I had a minor frostbite situation in Telluride and wound up dropping $140 (!) on the warmest Hestra gloves at some Vail Resorts-owned shop.
I guess that's not very helpful, other than to say I wish I'd given these a shot at $60?
Why don't you like it? It works like a charm when ive baked it in to my leather gloves. the leather doesn't even wet at all in the rain up here in WA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
What product do you prefer?
I love mine, but need to snow SnoSeal.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
"Baked" you say?
After decades of hairdyers and heat guns, I now use the "baked" method too on my leather goods with SnoSeal. Far less messy. Here is a solid description of the process. http://amountainjourney.com/how-to-w...-kinco-gloves/Quote:
Originally Posted by ACH
Basically a version of what the above says, but as with any pre-season gear prepping it is best done in a heightened state. I just slather on snoseal using a latex glove on one hand, my leather glove on the other making sure to get the stuff into all the seams and crevices. I try and get it so its coated in the stuff all over to the point where there is a little left all over that wont rub in.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACH
then I set my oven temp to the lowest possible setting, and throw the gloves in. After a minute or two, the snoseal has melted and the gloves look wet. I take them out, put them on and aggressively start wringing my hands and rubbing the wet snoseal in. Add a little more snoseal to spots, and repeat a time or two more. then I hang them up to dry and voila. After a few uses in the field you can tell where the wet/thin spots are and add a little additional snoseal.
It does turn the leather a much darker color, but I don't really care. Also, it doesn't have much of an odor, and the gloves don't get hot if you are paying at all attention.
It was pretty much the go to in the 70's for a lot of people skiing leather boots and also for hiking/mountaineering boots. Sure better products have come along but having used it for years on non-goretex boots in my youth with good effect, I wouldn't say it's crap, just a bit dated.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
my dad or i had a can or two of it from early 70s on as far as i can remember. it was always kind of exciting to get the boots all gooey when i was a kid.
Hubbard's is better than Sno-Seal for boots, it's less sticky than Obenauf's too. Works well on leather gloves. My dad, grandpa and uncles used it on their "corks".
^^^Huberd's in the can is absolutely the best for smooth all-leather boots. It's the only thing I'll use on my Whites.
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But for leather gloves, Nikwax:
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why do you like those better than Snoseal? If you bake in the snoseal, there is no goeyness or stickiness. I know the nikiwax is double+ the price, so what makes that stuff better? Same with the hubbards? Or is it mainly a preference based on loyalty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
Huberd's on my work boots gives the best combination of suppleness (on hard-used, dried-out boots) and waterproofness.
Nikwax for gloves has kind of a hard finish when it dries that I like - better waterproofness, better grip. I don't hate SnowSeal, I just like Nikwax better.
I wore my short cuffs yesterday in 10-15 degrees. These don't have the removable liners. It was a pow day and my hands were warm the entire time. No need for my wool liners but I was working hard.
Oh and I prefer mink oil on my gloves.
Huberd's spreads more easily than sno seal. It's not tacky, no need for "baking" with gloves and you can use less in my experience. I might try the Nikwax for gloves but I like having one leather treatment.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
I like Huberd's. The free NikWax that came with my Kincos seems good. I've also used a couple of other random beeswax concoctions over the years that I like.
Huberds (made in McMinneville OR) works better if you don't care about discoloration - pine tar FTW. Snowseal dries clear but makes gloves pretty stiff
The FTP bike gloves look great for MTB and the full finger would make a great spring glove, need to order soon.
Yea, good call, but I don't have that model yet and I'll be biking soon enough and need new gloves.
i have last year's model from the bbi16 raffle. i wish they had the liner because i sweat and and my hands get cold super fast when i have to take the gloves off. i always wear some kind of liner. i will have to find that thread, too. i intentionally avoided dwelling on snow this season and now spring and a better knee have snuck up on me and i'm not ready.
Has anyone tried putting FTP replacement liners into BD Guide glove shells?
My guide gloves are barely broken in, but the liners are shot. I'd rather not buy a whole new pair of gloves, due to price and also to my preference not to throw away gloves that are otherwise in good shape.
I note that FTP suggests that their replacement liners fit in other company's shells, but was curious whether anyone has experience with this.
Thanks!
I'll answer my own question, in case anyone else is curious...
FTP liners do indeed seem to work pretty well in BD Guide gloves. I have some medium long-cuff FTP liners to fit in my medium Guide gloves, and I think they'll work pretty well (won't likely test on snow 'til next fall though). The velcro system on the BD gloves of course doesn't work, but it seems like no big deal. The fit/feel/etc seems good. The liners stay in place reasonably well when taking gloves on/off. And I assume it'll get better as I wear them. So unless something major pops up, I just got another major chunk of life out of my Guide gloves for the very fair price of $20. Thanks FTP!
And as has been abundantly stated, FTP customer service is fantastic. Long story short, I inadvertently made myself kind of a high-maintenance customer and they were very helpful, above and beyond what's typical or what can be reasonably expected. And their mtn bike gloves seem pretty sweet too, particularly for the price.
Related: it's worth noting that FTP sizing changed sometime in the last several years (maybe standard knowledge and I missed it...). I was once a Large in FTP, but have learned that I'm now a medium. (I wear size 9 in hestras).
I'd have to give two thumbs up for FTP's mountain bike gloves. I got larges, and they're true to size. Nice stretchy mesh top. Full leather palm. No hot spots or chafing.
Dexterous as fuck too.
And they're on sale right now. Only 20$ for a leather palm glove!
I just ordered the MTB gloves. I'm a XL in the SX winter glove and dropped a note to FTP to request the proper sizing. I'll report back.
Love my mtn bike gloves. They've held up longer than other brands gloves I've had. Use them biking and dirt biking so they get a good workout.
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Originally Posted by Rico in Flag
Thirded. Ordering back-ups now, and a pair for the wife. Love the gloves - WAY better built than the Fox gloves I had previously. Used em for summer skiing on the East Side too to great effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat
My only complaint: doesn't work on my iphone. Boo hoo.
I am really liking the MTB gloves as well. I went with the padded version for commuting and my rigid ss. First padded gloves I have owned that I like.
I've used a pair of the fingerless, everyday for a month and they're holding up well.Quote:
Originally Posted by meter-man
Okay -- want to order some MTB gloves to replace my crumbling ones. But would like to grab a pair of factory seconds gloves to replace the kinco I drunkenly dropped in the raging campfire...please come back in stock.
Pro tip: Home Depot work gloves make great full finger mountain bike gloves, cost less, last longer.
I realized I didn't report back.
Ordered XL full finger mtb gloves with padding. They are a little large but it's not a big deal. Ridden. With the about 10 times. They have gotten muddy and wet and are holding up well. $20 is a steal. Get some.
This. Their Husky brand carries a lifetime warranty as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Just got a pair of SX Gloves these things are built to last. Measuring my hand I was in between M and L. Medium fits grate but I have short fingers. Those liners are plush and fit my hestra heli gloves, which have never been warm enough perfectly. All their gloves are on sale right now. Best sixty dollars i've spent on ski gear.