Coyote Problem

Coyotes are actually one of those animals whose prevalence is directly related to human habitation. Much like raccoons or whitetails.
Look up the Eastern or Northeastern coyote, or whatever it's called. They are a hybrid species that came about from America's westward expansion.
I don't like to just shoot things (except gophers, pew pew), and I would have a hard time mowing down animals that can look so much like dogs, but I get why people do it, and I don't really have a problem with it. I guess I'm just not a killer.

Just moved to a country-ish home and coyotes are around. Have young kids and a big dog albeit she's a bit older. While I'm not going to kill them, the high powered pellet gun is going to make an appearance to the give them a bit of a kick in the ass to let them know we're here.

I killed 2 coyotes this morning in my bathrobe Am I a bad person? They were 40 yards from my front porch. First time I've seen coyotes in a couple years.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

I killed 2 coyotes this morning in my bathrobe Am I a bad person? They were 40 yards from my front porch. First time I've seen coyotes in a couple years.

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Only you can answer that question??? Like Stuck, I am not a fan of killing dog like animals and frankly, killing mammals bums me out, but hey, carne asada is damn good. I guess if your eating them it's all good :wink:

Hickster status quo. Lives or moves rural to be surrounded by nature only to reshape it into some distorted ideal.

I'm trademarking hickster^TM, by the way.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

I'm trademarking hickster^TM, by the way.

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I love it.... definitely stealing this.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

Hickster status quo. Lives or moves rural to be surrounded by nature only to reshape it into some distorted ideal.

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And that is what pisses me off the most about people close to wilderness areas. Leave the animals alone or fucking move.

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Originally Posted by liv2ski

Only you can answer that question??? Like Stuck, I am not a fan of killing dog like animals and frankly, killing mammals bums me out, but hey, carne asada is damn good. I guess if your eating them it's all good :wink:

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I don't like killing animals either. Trophy hunting makes me sick. I don't like to bird hunt either, I feel bad killing a bird for some piddly amount of meat. When I am dealing with the dead coyotes I always feel the weight of what I did. I killed a beautiful wild animal that didn't have an evil intent, just was acting off of instinct looking for food or whatever. Not to say I am against hunting. I see value in it. But personally I don't care much for it.

I don't seek out the coyotes. I don't go up in the hills looking for them. I don't bait them. I don't use calls. If they're not near the house, I don't shoot them.

But the coyotes are a threat to my dogs that I care very much about. They have more value to me than a random coyote.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

Hickster status quo. Lives or moves rural to be surrounded by nature only to reshape it into some distorted ideal.

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agreed.
like the nature, but only on their own terms. So much of this garbage in these parts.

dadgummit, you'd think we were in the mountains!


... hickster .. ha! win.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

I don't like killing animals either. But the coyotes are a threat to my dogs that I care very much about. They have more value to me than a random coyote.

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If I had a place on the edge of a wilderness area, I sure as hell would have a good chunk by the house solidly fenced off for the fur kids and I am pretty sure my two would stand up against a few yotes.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

Hickster status quo. Lives or moves rural to be surrounded by nature only to reshape it into some distorted ideal.

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What basis do you have for your ideal of what it means to live with nature, city boy?

(and no I don't shoot the coyotes, I'm 50 yards from the USFS, but I don't have any pets, actually it is kind of nice they usually stay higher which allows the fox population to survive in the valley)

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Yup. If you have seen what a pack of coyotes will do to a family dog, baby deer or calf they aren't so cute. We have had coyote packs actively try to lure our dogs into the woods at the edge of our field. They will send a pup out in the field that makes "let's play" noises all the while the pack waits in the woods, ready to kill. It's happened multiple times now.

I do enjoy seeing them at a distance, much as I enjoy seeing the deer, bear, etc that come through our field but if they get close to the house I kill them.

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True dat. We watch this exact scenario go down from my neighbor's deck.

Neighbor breeds of Border Collies and there was a young coyote in the meadow "playing". A dog takes after the coyote and when it hit the middle of the meadow two adult coyotes started flanking the dog from behind the ridgelines. Fortunately the dog had a sense that something was up did a quick 180 and hightailed it back to the house. I guess it's true what they say about Border Collies and intelligence.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

Hickster status quo. Lives or moves rural to be surrounded by nature only to reshape it into some distorted ideal.

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You didn't read a word of what I said, did you.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

I don't like killing animals either. Trophy hunting makes me sick. I don't like to bird hunt either, I feel bad killing a bird for some piddly amount of meat. When I am dealing with the dead coyotes I always feel the weight of what I did. I killed a beautiful wild animal that didn't have an evil intent, just was acting off of instinct looking for food or whatever. Not to say I am against hunting. I see value in it. But personally I don't care much for it.

I don't seek out the coyotes. I don't go up in the hills looking for them. I don't bait them. I don't use calls. If they're not near the house, I don't shoot them.

But the coyotes are a threat to my dogs that I care very much about. They have more value to me than a random coyote.

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That's deep. Well spoken.

I dunno about deep exactly. He likes his dogs. He's chosen one way to try to protect them and is defending his choice. I'm not saying his choice is necessarily wrong but there are other choices.

Fuckin' hippies.

Coyotes are the asshole of the western landscape. Ask my lambs and cats that are likely some hairy pile of poop somewhere on the property.

get off my farm

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

Fuckin' hippies.

Coyotes are the asshole of the western landscape.

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*people* are the asshole of the western landscape. Don't dare forget that. This is not our ranch.

Hippies? Tuck those spurs back cowboy, not in this neck.

I grow crops to live. I hunt only to feed my family. I'm humbled, respectful, and sad for every animal that dies to that end.

Live in a coyote's country, then kill him just for being a yote' .. well, that doesn't make any sense to me.

what do/did native americans think of coyotes?

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Originally Posted by Summit

What basis do you have for your ideal of what it means to live with nature, city boy?

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Everything I need to know I learned in kindergarten. Minimize impact, tread lightly, and show some fucking respect. Not that any of this should require justification or explanation. Killing is the easy way out.

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Originally Posted by aevergreene

what do/did native americans think of coyotes?

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Like all of Nature, I am pretty certain they had good stories of the coyote. Just Google it: http://www.native-languages.org/legends-coyote.htm

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

I killed 2 coyotes this morning in my bathrobe.

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How did two coyotes get in your bathrobe? That would have pissed me off too.

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Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

How did two coyotes get in your bathrobe? That would have pissed me off too.

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Knowing Woody, I'm guessing it's a flannel bathrobe.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

Everything I need to know I learned in kindergarten. Minimize impact, tread lightly, and show some fucking respect. Not that any of this should require justification or explanation. Killing is the easy way out.

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Yep... you know a couple ethical ideas but not much about what nature really is like.

Drop the knowledge, Summit. What made up criteria are needed to form an opinion on killing coyotes? Everything you think you know about my experiences is an assumption.