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When Danno suggested a new thread I didn't realize the draft was in 2 days. Damn. I guess it's time to get it started. Nuggets have never played past May before so who knew?
May whoever wins have as much class during their parade as Denver did. Which is exactly zero class. Make us proud.
Go Nuggs! All-star Jamal?
Congratulations to Mike Malone for not taking his shirt off during the JR Smith tribute parade.
Biggest attraction in Denver these days, by artist Detour:
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Dumpster fire predictions for 23-24?
Someone talk Harden into leaving......please?
Denver are the clear favorites right now, but winning back to back is really hard.
Also, that Phoenix trade to get Beal kinda seems like a trainwreck unless he transforms as a player (not ruling this out, but he'd better be cool with his usage rate dropping significantly). One of the worst contracts in the league IMO and now they're just stuck with what they have for a few seasons and can only sign guys at the vet minimum. They were already lacking depth and now they have even less.
I don't have an opinion yet on the Warriors for obvious reasons - need to see how it'll shake out with the roster.
I'm curious, do you think it will be addition by subtraction? That him leaving will make the team better? He may not be worth the money they'd have to pay him, but they won't have cap room to replace him, and I don't think they're better without him.Quote:
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Agree with all this. But I do think the Suns trade Ayton. Wonder what they get back? Frees up 33mil. Who takes him?Quote:
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Heh. No better, no worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
He did get a cool tattoo hahaQuote:
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When the player you have to go through is a 7' behemoth, not sure trading a guy who should help with that is a good idea. Still, Ayton shrunk from the task last month so maybe they think a warm body with energy like Landale is a better choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by EWG
If you're on some other team, how much would you give up for Ayton. He doesn't seem to have a high motor and he seemed to sulk a lot.
Some say JR's shirt is still out there, missing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusty
what else are the sixers other options? overpay fred van vleet? I could actually see FVV since his obvious ties to Nurse. so maybe there's something there, but FVV is not the answer. Plus i can't see FVV on a close to max and toby on a max on the same team. That means Harden resigns with the sixers, the houston talk is probably to try to drive up value and maybe to keep the NBA off their back as Harden did do a contract restructure less than a year ago to help the sixers free up cap space, which to me means he's gonna get paid. Unfortunately, I think he signs a long-term contract for something less than max, but that's just my guess.Quote:
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I'm hoping to see some movement between now and draft night. It would be sweet to see some players get traded if teams decide they should move up in the draft.
Are the portland fans ready to see the blazers go youth movement and move dame? I hope Dame gets moved to a contender (sign-n-trade for harden? lol) and portland gets a haul in return that helps the franchise rebound quickly.
I don't think the suns will be able to trade Ayton, unless they want to sell low. Plus they need a big. I'd probably give Vogel a stab at coaching him and hope he gets him to play a different role other than what he wants to do all the time, shoot 3s and be a perimeter center. It will be interesting to see how the Suns superteam plays out that's for sure
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Trade brewing, Celtics give up Brogdon and get Porzingis, Brogdon goes to the Clippers who give up Morris and a 1st to the Wiz.
At first this kinda seemed bizarre, but maybe I get it a little. Boston doubles down on Smart and adds an outside shooting big and shot blocker, Washington starts stockpiling firsts. Clippers get a real PG to pair with Leonard and George for not a ton of cash (22mil) which is just over what Morris is making. But they are still pretty far over the cap right? More moves coming?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Also the Nuggets just traded picks again, this time with Indiana, and now own 29, 32 and 37 in this draft.
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I dont get it. Brogdon is an asset. Give up Grant Williams. I like him but he seemed a little poisonous to team cohesion. Or give up Smart. One or the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by EWG
I think this makes Boston better for sure, and maybe puts them over the top. Porzongis is underrated and gives them some serious presence inside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
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Yabbut ..... that hand's on a match stick arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Agree Porzingis makes the Celtics better. Good move by the Celtics.
Phoenix on the other hand I don’t understand. Could be wrong, but Ayton’s contract is going to be hard to move. Beal’s best days are behind him.
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Seems fine.
I honestly thought Boston would move Brogdon or Smart to get CP3. He'd be a great fit there as they keep cycling through point guards (Kemba, Brogdon, etc.). And as a guard heavy team they could run him light and try to keep him healthy for when it matters. And his experience would probably bode well for the younger guys.
Porzingas - who has both been overrated and underrated - does not put Boston over the top.
This is an interesting take and I think a very good one. Paul could steady that ship. They have horses, just need someone to keep everyone calm.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
I don't want Paul. Not only is the injury prone thing a problem, but he's too slow. For the Celtics to maximize their strengths, they should be running.
I don't want Porzingas.
Well then you’ll be happy the trade just fell through.Quote:
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You still got him, but Smart shipped out.
I'll have to think about this one for a while.
I think it's a good trade for the grizzlies. Smart is just what they need.
I don't like porzingis but if he plays up to his potential the Cs will be damn good. Plus two first round picks for smart is a nice kicker. They certainly needed to shake things up. I think it's a good trade for the Celtics too.
Wizards get a sign n trade for a player that was going to opt out.
Good trade all around.
The twist on the trade will take a bit to digest. Smart had conflicts with Brown so maybe this settles the locker room. Porzingis played real well last year. Interested to see what the supposed handshake extension is.
I wonder how low GS goes next year. Green likely is returning, but without him and an injury to Steph or Klay could be really good. Draft picks have become much more valuable for cheap contracts to high priced teams.
Are the Celtics done making moves?
I'd rather get rid of Brown.
celts with more #1 picks coming....g-dammit! come on Daryl!!! stop sitting there. at least dump tobias. celts not done....
Deal: https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/st...869053442?s=20
Celtics now have Porzingis, Horford, and Williams at big. That’s a lot of cap space. They’re not done making moves. Dunno who wants Horford though. So, shop Williams?
Or, do Celtics keep trying to shop Brogdon? (How’s his injury?)
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i just don't want a 4 year deal....sixers screwed with cap space and picks so most likely staying, but unfortunately some of his playoff history showed up last season. just tired of dribble dribble dribble dribble....shot clock going down, shoot/pass. too much standing around on offense; hopefully nurse has the cure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
and they also got rid of muscala and the oft-injured big italian shooter who didn't play last seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by 54-46
I could see Dubs trying to get Muscala from Wiz.Quote:
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Or, bigger:
Celtics/Dubs fans: How about Williams and 25 pick for Kuminga, 19 pick, and filler (two-way Ty Jerome)?
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I find it kinda shocking if it’s true the Celtics were gonna keep Smart in the first deal and then turned around and traded him in the final one. With and without Smart are just two very different teams. Maybe they were gonna trade Smart later anyway in the first scenario.
So Boston moves up 10 spots in the draft and gets a later first round pick next year. Adds Porzingus. Kinda think that makes them better. I think Malcom is a better PG for them than Smart was, but Brogdon has not been durable the last 4-5 years. So they need another good point if they keep him.
Is Tahoe Js CP3 to Boston now in play? I kinda think it might be.
Memphis just got better. Smart seems like a good fit there. Talk about an intense team.
The West has improved over the last couple days, especially if the Suns can move Ayton for rotation guys.
I think there's a good chance Zion gets traded today. It's a tough call because he's so damn good when he plays, but if he never plays and isn't committed then who cares? If I'm a Pels fan I'd rather see what Scoot Henderson can do than keep wasting seasons frustrated with Zion.
On paper, it's a win for the Cs. To get two 1sts and Porzingis for Marcus and a couple of bags of chips is pretty damn good. And there are certainly many who think Marcus was a problem for the Cs. I don't think so, I think he was their heart and soul and leader, but maybe that held Tatum back, Brown back? Maybe losing him is just a sideways move, and then adding Porzingis is a big plus?Quote:
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On the court, I think they are ok without another PG, I don't want CP3. Tatum and Brown do so much playmaking, they can do just fin with White and Brogdon. And Pritchard seems like a big winner in this trade (unless they deal for CP3); I don't actually think they need to add a PG. But they may not be done.
Still, Brad Stevens is a wizard.