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Sorry to hear that Mang. Hopefully your not in your fifties, as getting employed at my age is tough, hence why I am self employed now. Hopefully, you can ski the season out and go back to work in May.
Yup. When I got let go from my long time job on 12/1/15 there was no notice at all. I tried to find something good for a while after that but gave up after a year of finding nothing better than ~$10/hr with shitty hours. Yeah what liv2ski said is a real thing, nobody wants a 50 something year old anymore :( Good luck dude.
46 18+ years sys admin. Might be time to make the consulting leap.Quote:
Originally Posted by liv2ski
This is second time in 11 years. 1st time much notice company just went under. This one was weird...I think they are making a mistake, but don't we always when this happens. Life of working for startups. Ugh.
Thanks for the kind words fellas.
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Sorry to hear that Pard.
What line of work?
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Sys admin. Azure. VMware. Windows..historical data collection software (OSISoft PI). Some light controls. Data center experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by farmer
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Getting laid off without notice is tough and the situation will get better. The upside of the current labor market is employers are having challenges filling jobs and have been making offers to geezers over fifty like me. It is OK to leave dates off of your resume and keep the recruiter guessing to get an interview.
Been there,
Demand for sysadmins seems to be very high. You should not have much trouble finding another gig
Sorry to hear that SDog. Sounds like your resume is strong. A friend in a vaguely similar situation did well as a consultant. Hang in there.
I know laid off means not fired, but it still feels weird when it happens out of the blue. I been with this company for 6 years and have some select knowledge that no other team member has. I don't see how they will fill the void. My guess is that those involved in the decisions with the new investors didn't really explain clearly what my position entails. It was strictly a money decision. Not at all performance based.
My boss has agreed to give a recco letter that clearly states downsize/layoff not performance. Semi decent severance. Will likely now be pushing the move back to NY up rapidly as I don't see the point in getting an SLC based job for a short period of time. Will look for other remote work, but don't know that this isn't just a pipe dream. I have gotten used to working from home. I feel I work much more efficiently.
I'm sure it'll all work out. Maybe I'll revisit that voice over thread I started long ago and try something new?
Thanks again. This place is always good for support even if some/most think me an asshole 😀
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Most posters here in the past have been pretty stoked to take a funployment vacation to where ever the pow is or the surf is pounding. Europe, Bali, etc.
I don't think the perception is that you're an asshole. A little prickly sometimes, okay maybe. What's the voice over thread? I don't remember it.
Good luck mang and listen to mecc^^^ and do something fun for a while, don't just sit around worrying.
You've got high demand skills. Good luck! But dont think you'll need itQuote:
Originally Posted by Skidog
If you have an inkling that you can make it in the consulting world working for yourself, go for it. Don't look back.
Now that I own my own business and work for myself, I'll never (knock on wood) do it any differently. I spent 15 years in corporate America and made it through several layoffs, and realized there is absolutely no loyalty on either side. The only way you can be sure you'll be employed is when you control your own destiny. Sure, it's going to be an adjustment to lifestyle and the way you organize your finances, but it's SO worth it. Fuck the man.
Voice over wasn't a long thread. I just asked once if anyone here knew anything obviously, in true tgr form, there was indeed some in that biz. One even offered studio use. I don't think it's anything special, but complete strangers have come up to me and said shit like "you should be in radio or voice over".Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
IT work is probably where I'll land short term. It's not my "passion" by any means, but I know wtf I'm doing so it's comfortable. Aside from skiing I'm pretty risk averse.
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Originally Posted by Skidog
The Graveyards Are Full of Indispensable Men.
I don’t see age as a restriction if you are good at your job. Sysadmin skills are in high demand. Maybe take a course in the latest protocols.
I had to think about this for a bit.
My company might be looking for someone, we are all remote but sometimes need to work onsite in large contact centers.
Right now one of the places happens to be in "Sandy Utah"
Would you like me to make an inquiry on your behalf?
Our prime DBA lives in Ogden
best o' luck dog
Very few regret being their own boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skidog
hell yeah, it you can bring in sufficient $$, home-based consulting gig is life enhancing vs. W-2 EE
When I'm off the road and working from my house I eat like a muther fucker. It's bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSteve
user error
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Originally Posted by mecc69
Brilliant financial advice now that the paycheck spigot has been turned off.
Good point. Make sure you map out the places with free breakfast buffets before you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
I think Benny is angling to sell his research on this important topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Sucks as I also know. Wife and I both got cut without notice late November one year with two kids under age 2 under the roof. I've been bouncing from contract gig to contract gig for the past 12 years. She's been laid off three times and it took her 3 years to find another good job at one point. We both have graduate level college degrees, advanced certifications, and tons of experience in pretty high demand skill sets.
what does it matter it you got canned or laid off ....either way you are down the roadQuote:
Originally Posted by Skidog
yeah its pretty wierd, but welcome to the world of consulting , they will need to consult with somebody on the stuff you know that nobody else does so offer to do it for them ...this is where you rape them
Corporations either didn't /don't think about this stuff or they paint with such all encompassing broad brush strokes that they make mistakes
I got canned after 30 yrs as part of a move to eliminate the low performers but really it was an excuse to cut head count, except no hired HW guy would move to where i was working remote HW to replace me so they had to hire another guy and send him off on training for 6 months for a net nothing it cost them $$$$ to can me and service suffered, the other guy had to work his bag off and accululated 600hrs of OT which they don't like so they reprimanded him for that
It was pretty funny these 2 managers flew up and read me the riot act. The old style IBM culture was pervasive so they were crying and i was laughing as they marched me to the door with a box full of shit after 30yrs i was like reallly?
in any case full DB pension bridged to 65/retirement benifts/ 1 year severance/ employment counseling ( I was too cool for this shit) and I had just turned 49 ... havent worked since
Well that sucks. Not a good sign when startups start laying folks off. Maybe for the best.
Sorry to hear that skidawg.
Often when one door closes another one opens.
Psssst.......Bucks T4.Quote:
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Waffle sammitch and a big jacket with deep pockets lined with heavy duty zip lock bags.Quote:
Originally Posted by abraham
I've always liked getting laid off. I tried to get a layoff from my last company. Sadly... I had to quit instead.
Funemployment should be encouraged - its not often you get to f**k around in the middle of your life - make the most of it.
Btw, also kinda bad financial advice to tell someone to go travel somewhere when they live right next to some of the best ski mountains in the world, at a time they are waking up from a bad winter. And he probably has a few passes to said mountains. But, what do I know. This Is TGR.
Good spot.Quote:
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Guy who had that liquor store on the end used to have a wolf named Trouble. That was 25 years ago though. Trouble got shot I think.
Had to look it up but duly noted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Awesome bacon.
Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you can get hired anywhere with that skillset. All hail the sysadmin.
You're a lucky dog with that deal, although I'll bet IBM'S pension is structured so that you'd be getting a much higher pension if you were laid off at 59.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
That stuff is all history, though. Corporate America cleared out those obligations a decade ago.
When private equity bought us they laid off a bunch of legacy employees only to have to hire them back at higher wages plus bonuses and full tenure.
My wife was laid off about 6 weeks ago, by a startup. She just got something else, so we can relax and let the severance carry us until she starts. It’s been pretty awesome having a stay at home mom, and she’s been a lot nicer.
You’ll find something. Enjoy the time off. Make the most of it.