click on the thumbs for some live action. no jerry, no trey. wassup with that?
http://www.latimesmagazine.com/2010/...ists-ever.html
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click on the thumbs for some live action. no jerry, no trey. wassup with that?
http://www.latimesmagazine.com/2010/...ists-ever.html
Not so sure about that list. George Harrison better then Jimi Hendrix, bb king, Jimmie page, carlos santana, and stevie ray. I think not
No Steve Howe but they put Johnny Marr and Jack White in there? At least they gave Joe Pass his due...
I'd love to know the criteria used in making the rankings; hard to fathom how they put Julian so much higher than Andres.
as a former journalist who was required to make lists all the time, it's easy to forget that there's a great deal of subjectivity in them. it also boils down to how many people are involved in making the list (i.e. was it one writer's list or a list by committee?).
that said, where the hell was Adrian Belew?
what about Standley Jordan?
i know there's some others I can't think of at the moment, but the main thrust behind a list is to spark discussion (and plus they are easy to whip up and then they generate tons of comments/pageviews).
No Roy Buchanan or Al Di Meola???
The Edge at 14? Hendrix not in the top 20? you have to be shitting me
I don't even read these "greatest ever" lists anymore.
Un-fucking-believable. 20 guys ahead of Hendrix? Unpossible. I try not to pay attention to these things, but curiosity got the better of me.
Robert Johnson not on the list? ROBERT FUCKING JOHNSON????
Robert Quine, too. Maybe they have something against people named Robert.
yea these lists are almost always crap.
i did scan for folks i thought would be overlooked like richard thompson, leo kottke, john fahey, curt kirkwood. only curt was missing here, and his omission might be more acceptable if guys like jack white (fercrissakes!) weren't included...and sorry but edge wouldn't be anywhere near the list but for advancements in digital signal processing and the fact that his band blows so hard (as in blowhard)...and zappa could only get in by the hair of his teeth.
like i said Crap
what about that dude from duran duran?? :fm:
but seriously: where are james blood ulmer, steve hackett, steve morse?
and yes, belew is a glaring omission!
Eric Clapton?
he's number 9.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonesy
I like Johnny Marr and all, but higher than Les Paul? Les fucking Paul at 32 on that list? Without him half of the guys on that page would be pumping gas with Blurred.
Hendrix should be in the top 5.
Woops, hey all of us armchair critics, list is alphabetical. I kind of wondered how Duane Alman was number 1.
Dumpy is a genius.
Or the rest of us are just idiots.
Either way, they should've assigned Hendrix codename Aardvark so he could be first. And leaving Robert Johnson off is still stupid.
Knopfler didn't crack the top 50... am I alone on this one?
haha...allman to zappa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
i'm sure i would have noticed that too if i weren't trying to run out the door while checking out the thread and list :rolleyes2
good one dumpy.
and jeez no todd rundgren either.
edit : or marc ribot
okay, to their credit LAT did state "listed alphabetically" in the first sentence of the piece, but the layout totally emphasizes numerical categorization, so it's confusing from a graphic standpoint.
they should have just listed them alphabetically and not included numbers of any kind (then again they may have done the overt number thing to create more buzz (i.e. "controversy").
again, it's only a list.
heck, we should come up with the TGR Music Maggots Top 50 Guitarists list...
I nominate the following:
Adrian Belew
Buckethead
Saw Kenny Wayne Shepperd play outdoors in SLC on Sunday night (only 4 tracks before severe lightning canceled the rest of it). That dude should be destined for somebody's list. Damn tight.
Definitely an ommission. Knopfler is someone I would drive many miles to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyCarter
Knopfler obvious miss
Dickie Betts ditto
I can't tell you how many times I have watched that Randy Rhodes video. He was fucking awesome.
I think the best video of the bunch as far as showing each artist at their best is SRV's Texas Flood. He must have done a ton of coke before that show because he blew that shit up.
MF
^^ yea i got to see him on the first couple of ozzy tours...tragic death of a young monster talent.
a couple more glaring omissions came to mind today:
bill frisell
nels cline
Bill Frisell changed jazz guitar more than anyone else in the last fifty years. Seems like every new player is copping his sound. Definite omission.
Also, I saw Dave Rawlings (with Gillian Welch, natch) last night, and I'd nominate him. Very underrated/unnoticed picker, probably because their vocals are so amazing no one's paying attention to the guitar.
The only one on the list that I don't get: Tom Morello. Dude knows how to use a whammy pedal, but otherwise, I don't really see him as a major talent or innovator. Maybe it's just me.
Am I the only one thinking Robert Randolph should be on that list?
Lindsey Buckingham?
check out the Ritchie Blackmore video.....classic.
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-_8xivRTsY&feature=related"]YouTube- Lynyrd Skynyrd - FreeBird [Live][/nomedia]
I kinda lump Morello in with the likes of The Edge. Both of them changed the way folks heard the guitar. Sure, neither may be on the level of a Hendrix or even Prince in terms of shredding technique, but both The Edge and Morello knew a lot about texture and nuance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pegleg
With The Edge it was all about harmonics during a period when excessive shredding was the norm. The Edge's chiming, ringing notes were a breath of fresh air in the early-to-mid-'80s.
As for Morello, when he emerged with RATM it was at the tail-end of the shredding movement and the beginning of the whole drop-D tuning movement (i.e. the Nu Metal sound of Korn, Limp Bizkit, etc). Morello's sound was unlike anybody else at the time. I still remember when I saw Rage at Gathering of the Tribes in 1992. I spent almost their entire set searching the stage for the DJ who was so obviously f@#king up the turntables until I finally realized that all of the scratching and wiki-wiki noises were coming from the guitarist. Sure, it's all effects driven, but up until that point nobody was making those kinds of sounds with their guitar. So in that respect he was an innovator (one could even argue that Morello had a positive effect on DJing as around the same time the likes of DJ Q-Bert and the Skratch Piklz started using guitar effects on their turntables).
Additionally, a few years back at SXSW I caught Morello on his inaugural Nightwatchman solo jaunt. Dude knows how to wreck havoc on an acoustic guitar, that's for damn sure. Hearing him play in a church in downtown Austin with nothing more than a battered six-string was pretty amazing (sadly the album he did under the Nightwatchman moniker was terribly over-produced and way too slick; it didn't nearly capture the grit, grind, and pure driven emotion of his acoustic set).
shows you how difficult it is to narrow it down to 50. Maybe it should have been the best 100 guitar players. Don't think I saw Neil Young, Stephen Stills, John Frusciante or Phil Manzanera on that list either. Might not be top 50 but would definitely be in the top 100.
To all you knuckleheads out there, and I mean that in a friendly way....the list was ALPHABETICAL. That's why Hendix was #21. There was A through G before him.
What really cracked me up were all the people ib in the LA Times comment section wondering why Roy Clark was so far above Jimmi Hendix!
They did it alphabetically so they wouldn't have constant negative feedback on who is "the best". I guess it backfired on them. heh heh.
Personally I think that list was a pain in the ass to navigate!!
My own favorite guitarists are ALL acoustic with the exception of SRV. They are:
Tommy Emmanuel
Michael Hedges
Don Ross
Paco de Luca
SRV
Erik Clapton
Kaki King
John Williams
Antoine Dufour
A youtube guitarist known simply as Naudo.
And one up and coming extremely gifted young guitarist: Sungha Jung.
My #1 most HATED acoustic "guitard": Andy McKee. HTF does this frickin' guy get 30,000,000 hits on his youtube videos when a guy like Michael Hedges (RIP) can play circles around him, and only get like 50,000 hits??? WTF??
way to be late to the party, dude (this was revealed way back on Page 1 in Post #13 by Dumpy)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Rover
Interesting, since last time I checked Eric Clapton was best known for being an electric guitarist...Quote:
My own favorite guitarists are ALL acoustic with the exception of SRV. They are:
Tommy Emmanuel
Michael Hedges
Don Ross
Paco de Luca
SRV
Erik Clapton
Kaki King
John Williams
Antoine Dufour
A youtube guitarist known simply as Naudo.
:)
howsa bout this guy? anyone?
I was pleased to see your list did not include McKee. Every time a great guitarist list comes up on a forum some fucking noob posts that fucking Mckee video. I'm not sure why the video annoys me so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Rover
MF
I don't understand the hate for Jack White.. He should not be in the top ten or twenty, but he is the (IMO) best guitarist of his generation
One of my favorites acoustic or electric.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
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Originally Posted by JimmyCarter
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Originally Posted by Rip'nStick
Love Knoffler. He made #17 on this listQuote:
Originally Posted by TNKen
https://youtu.be/ftTA4qBzzoU
My top 5:
Rory Gallagher
Duane Allman
Jimi Hendrix
Steve Gaines would be here, if he didn't die so young
Jeff Beck
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Rounding out the top 10 would be Zappa and Clapton
Slash is the 9th-best guitarist ever. Apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
https://youtu.be/WknTbYOet4c?
Not saying he’s the greatest. But this video showing his mind and theory and tuning is wild.
Not to mention the five string custom.
link is no mas.
did steve morse make the list?
i'm certain moris tepper not included.
he was the guitarist who brought beefheart back to glory after his mid-70's, ill-fated attempt at commercial viability.
likely no sonny sharrock in there either.