I have a line on a pair and the Goodes have always intrigued me. I am looking at this as purely a Powder/Tree Ski. Has anyone skied it? How does it compare to their regular Carbon series?
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I have a line on a pair and the Goodes have always intrigued me. I am looking at this as purely a Powder/Tree Ski. Has anyone skied it? How does it compare to their regular Carbon series?
Bueller? Anyone?
Goode ain't like much 'round these parts. Buy some DPs.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ighlight=goode
I remember that thread from last year. My connection is with Goode though, not DP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pow4Brains
Whatever. I have some Pash 80's that with dynafit comforts that I use for touring and light inbounds/sidecountry. They are a terrific ski. It is the most torsionally stiff ski I've ever skied. Holds an edge like there's no tomorrow and for touring is light as a feather. They are not noodles as has been repeatedly stated by people - most of whom have not been on them.
In shopping for a carbon fiber ski last year I couldn't help notice the similarity between Goodes and DP's. I wanted DP's but this was last year - the year of DP's production and other problems.
So I called up Stephan Drake (the 'D' in DP dontcha know) out of the clear blue and had a nice chat about skis and the world. He heartily encouraged me to buy the Goodes as Stephan had no skis to sell me (nor were there any forthcoming at that time) , and though he was obviously not happy about the business relationship between himself and Dave Goode disintigrating among other business challenges at the time of our conversation, he was quick to say good things about Goode's products. There was no sense that anyone had 'ripped off' anyone's designs or ideas and my suspicion is that any similarities between their products was by some kind of agreement. He said the Pash 80's were virtually the same thing as his Wailer and didn't hesitate to tell me to go ahead with the purchase and said he liked them. This tells me something about both the Goode skis and Stephan Drake. This took place last late January
While I still lust after DP's other models and would have bought from Stephan if I could have, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the Goodes. Whether or not it's PC (or TGRC) to own them is up to you.
:wink:
That’s because he is a stand up guy and they are essentially his products (wouldn’t make sense to bash em’). Stephan loaned me a pair of brand spanking new Wailers in May on a hand shake so I could test drive them. DP customer service = $$$$$$$ When I first started researching Goode, it took 3 phone calls to their customer service dept. before getting a response.Quote:
Originally Posted by oftpiste
On topic, the only review I have read about the 96 is they might be too light and have a tendency of getting thrown around in variable conditions.
pm lee lau. he had a pair, in think.
Stand up guy indeed. I was pretty much blown away by his stand-uppedness, especially in the face of what his business was going through at the time. I was also saddened that he didn't have anything to sell me, but I definitely intend to support him in any way possible in the future for that very reason. That said, I didn't have any problems with the Goode service.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pow4Brains
Don't know what your experience with the Wailers was (conditions, application, etc.) but mine with the Pash 80's is that although they are extremely light, the torsional stiffness delivers some compensation for stability in unruly conditions. I also feel that the stiffness on the front end of the ski is not as soft as many seem to claim it is. Mine are not noodly in an sense of the word. They certainly ain't a dedicated mank ski, but they aren't the worst mank ski I've ever skied either. Tough to beat the light weight when you're an old, out of breath JONG like me skinning and packing them. I have other skis for crappy snow and marginal conditions, so these fit right where they belong in the lineup.
OffPiste,
Thanks for the pluses. I these will be a soft snow only ski for me and a bit of an experiment. I tend to go through gear from time to time.
Actually it's OFT (as in often) piste (as in pissed). I would never be so presumptuous as to call myself offpiste!Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexon Phil
:biggrin:
I'm actually also a 'phil'. Feel free to PM if you want any more details or observations. Again, I found the benefits of the tradeoffs involved with these skis far outweighed the costs and so it was an experiment that worked out well for me, though not an inexpensive one. I have skied them an a number of different conditions in and out of bounds, all with Dynafit comforts mounted. I tend to go through gear too.
You know -- like Henry VIII went through wives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexon Phil
Yo flex,
you wouldn't by chance have any sort of deal with goodes waterskis would you? A 9700 would look soooo nice on the lake next summer.:D