hardware removal and infections

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10-04-2006, 03:43 PM
gaprhatr

hardware removal and infections

I'm looking for advice on what infections caused by hardware feel like and whether I should have my screws removed. Last easter I broke my tib. plat. on a lodgepole. My dr said it was a 'clean break' and fixed it with three screws, slight meniscus tear but overall I was lucky nothing major to worry about.
My question to you guys, the area around one of the screw heads is causing some pain now that I started balance and strength work for the season, and that is where I hit my knee on everything( it just sticks out enough I guess). So is it my clam hurting or what? How does the infection feel, if you can feel it at all? It varies from no pain to gimping up stairs. Also what recover time am I looking at if I get the screws out until I can do everything again? I heard 1-3 weeks????
10-31-2006, 04:47 AM
0BernhardFranz

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Originally Posted by gaprhatr

I'm looking for advice on what infections caused by hardware feel like and whether I should have my screws removed. Last easter I broke my tib. plat. on a lodgepole. My dr said it was a 'clean break' and fixed it with three screws, slight meniscus tear but overall I was lucky nothing major to worry about.
My question to you guys, the area around one of the screw heads is causing some pain now that I started balance and strength work for the season, and that is where I hit my knee on everything( it just sticks out enough I guess). So is it my clam hurting or what? How does the infection feel, if you can feel it at all? It varies from no pain to gimping up stairs. Also what recover time am I looking at if I get the screws out until I can do everything again? I heard 1-3 weeks????

Inections cause amputations in 10 % of opened legs according to Mrs. Luer due to bone infection.The bone has no immunue system and the bones get hollowed out by bacteria till you need to amputate.
Screw pain can be rejection immunue rections and also be caused by eletric fields they cause.
On my page http://liwa.funtigo.com
there will be an infection chapter maybe someday, then check that as I will update it.
Antibiotics, Vitamin C, V C megadoses and a number of other vits and minerals stop infection.
Echinacea and other herbs can help with it and other herbs with inflammation.Do you have inflammation or infection ?
Inflammation curbing substances like Bromelain etc are in a sense helpful to bacteria sometimes as the inflammation is an immunue reaction.
Ginger does.
Many spices so so clover.All such spices helped reduce infection postop by up to 50 percent so anything that is contained in Curry may help.
dr.s.franz@t-online.de
You won´t be amputated. Just say be careful.
BF
10-31-2006, 03:06 PM
gergberg

gaprhatr,

I broke my tib/fib 8 months ago, still pretty messed up. When I try to run or do leg presses my knee hurts as the tibia nail is irritating some tendon or ligament and also the ankle area where the metal plate was inserted to stabilize my fibula. The docs told me, the pain I experience is not that unusual, at least in my case as I had to get all proximal screws removed, they didnt find any signs of infections or a broken screw or what not. And it does REALLY hurt sometimes especially right after starting to work out or do some balance exercises.
They said it might get better with time, which it did to some extent, and I should get used to it OR get the metal out and some new nail,plate and screws in. So, obviously I will try to get used to it and then hopefully get all the metal out as soon as the fracture has sufficiently healed (like 1 more year).

But, I found it is best to always ask my questions to the docs or have an extra check up if I had any concerns about my injury and the healing process, no matter how much I thought they might feel annoyed by me constantly asking them those questions. So, if you are concerned, ask them.
11-01-2006, 09:21 AM
SLCMunchie

i have some advise and a similarly related question. i broke by tib in 97. i had a nail and two screws holding it it. 6 months after the initial operation, i had the screws removed as they were causing me pain just like you described. i left the nail in. i actually re-cracked my tib with the nail in it early the next season. it's been fine ever since. well, fine in that it's not broken. i had to ski in very soft boots the next year and it still occasionally causes me pain, but not that much. i would say remove the screws if they are bugging you. it's a simple outpatient operation that at least for me helped things out a lot.

so, here's my question. its been what, 9 years now and i still have the nail in. will this cause me pain later on in life? should i get it removed? it dosent' seem to cause any problems now, but i'm worried about later on. the later i wait i'm imagining the harder it will be to remove. maybe i've already waited to long....

later and good luck.
11-02-2006, 08:14 PM
Jim S

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Originally Posted by 0BernhardFranz

Inections cause amputations in 10 % of opened legs according to Mrs. Luer due to bone infection.The bone has no immunue system and the bones get hollowed out by bacteria till you need to amputate.
Screw pain can be rejection immunue rections and also be caused by eletric fields they cause.
On my page http://liwa.funtigo.com
there will be an infection chapter maybe someday, then check that as I will update it.
Antibiotics, Vitamin C, V C megadoses and a number of other vits and minerals stop infection.
Echinacea and other herbs can help with it and other herbs with inflammation.Do you have inflammation or infection ?
Inflammation curbing substances like Bromelain etc are in a sense helpful to bacteria sometimes as the inflammation is an immunue reaction.
Ginger does.
Many spices so so clover.All such spices helped reduce infection postop by up to 50 percent so anything that is contained in Curry may help.
dr.s.franz@t-online.de
You won´t be amputated. Just say be careful.
BF

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...stuff/d7fa.jpg

You don't know shit.
11-03-2006, 06:26 PM
Vinman

muchie.. if it ain't broke don't fix it......
11-03-2006, 06:36 PM
advres

I shattered my shoulder a few years ago.
I knew the hardware got infected because I woke up one night with my shoulder 5 times the size it is normally. Plus, I had a 105 degree temp and couldn't see.

It isn't pretty but rest assured, You will know if it is indeed infected.

This was it before it got infected... You don't want to see the scar after the pins were removed. Since it was so infected they had to let it heal from the inside out...
http://www.kazimages.com/images/advres/staples.jpg
11-08-2006, 10:02 AM
gaprhatr

day one after hardware removal

So Dr. Sterett and team removed all three screws and scoped their work yesterday. It sounds like 4 days to a week on crutches (30% wb) just to let the everything settle in the joint. And after that strength work can start with pain being the only treshhold, but minimize impacts for a few weeks. But the holes should be filled in two weeks and I should be able to ski in 4 weeks or sooner, Not too bad. I feel great today and there isn't much pain, so I'm saving those vic's for later.

The best news was the joint looked great and the meniscus tear totally rebuilt or grew back. I had a small tear in the meniscus that they trimmed off and he said it had grown back and that everything was looking awesome in there.

They also said once it heals the chance of infection is gone and bone strength is what it would be if nothing had ever happened.

And to comment on Jim S's comments, I can totally see how this can be percieved as bull, I thought so all my life until I met a good friend of mine who is wholistic chiroprator and just using his free advise and cheap supplements I've become a believer experiencing it first hand, and even if it is in my head, I still feel better. But for $80-100 in calcium,magnesium,MSG, chondroitin, vit c it was worth it.
11-09-2006, 01:02 PM
Jim S

Much of the advice given by Obernard is erroneous, misleading, and can actually be damaging to you.
11-18-2006, 03:58 PM
0BernhardFranz

First of all, I have never seen my ma or sister ( who are doctors ) with porno but you or language, then you potentially kill patients by lying to them then you are simply a shizophrenic.I will take legal action.
But what can you expect ? My granddad had best finals in Bavaria that is like in germany, and all other students had wores ones - so you can´t be blamed for beiing inable to keep the Deaconate and yourself apart.
I recommmend to you prayer, psychotherapy and much, much work in morality inducing sciences ( so you understand you have to act moral and practise good medicine ) and medicine ( so you get some basis for charging people money for your Kurphuscherei as we would say in german ).
Maybe you attack me as I buy projectors to reduce cancer and you are really sick of not beiing able to cripple your patients into the oncology department because of people like me with unneccessary xrays.
Stay in Reno and spar me your medical porn story, you insult anyone who ever read lancet.
I appreciate you try to heal, but currently you have much to learn and do more harm then good.

´take Chlorella to survive this fella, as it heals the effects of excessive radiation ´
as his crave is to give you another X-wave ´

Sincerly,

Bernhard Franz
11-19-2006, 01:52 AM
Jim S

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
11-19-2006, 09:52 AM
Jim S

My credentials are dream credentials. But that's irrelevant. You can have poor clinicians with great pedigree backrounds and great clinician's that do not.

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Originally Posted by 0BernhardFranz

Inections cause amputations in 10 % of opened legs according to Mrs. Luer due to bone infection.

Surgically opened legs? Wrong. That number is higher than Cheech and Chong.

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The bone has no immunue system and the bones get hollowed out by bacteria till you need to amputate.

This is misleading.

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Screw pain can be rejection immunue rections and also be caused by eletric fields they cause.

Electric fields? Next thing we know you'll tell us put a light bulb in the patient's mouth and illuminate like Uncle Fester from the Adam's Family.

Commonly this problem is from screws poorly place or migration of a screw with subsequent malposition and affect upon nerves, periosteal elevation or pressure effect on other structures.

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On my page http://liwa.funtigo.com
there will be an infection chapter maybe someday, then check that as I will update it. Antibiotics, Vitamin C, V C megadoses and a number of other vits and minerals stop infection.

Another website to block.

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Many spices so so clover.All such spices helped reduce infection postop by up to 50 percent so anything that is contained in Curry may help.
dr.s.franz@t-online.deYou won´t be amputated. Just say be careful.BF

Yep. Just take some spices to kill the bacteria while your osteomyelitis spreads. You'll be crippled but tasty .