07 Dynafit

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02-17-2006, 07:14 PM
shirk

07 Dynafit

http://www.skirando.com/images/gear/...ertical-ft.jpg

Having seen the number of mags switch to Dynafit this season I can see alot more switching to these next year. Lets hope they have some wide brake options.

Here is some info lifted from PisteHors

Based around the Comfort design are the TLT Vertical ST and the TLT Vertical FT which Dynafit hopes will appeal to the FreeRando and FreeRide market currently occupied by its competitors. It is true that some Freeriders, for example Doug Coombes, use Dynafit bindings so that they can ride performant “big mountain” skis without too much weight penality when climbing. However the ST and FT failed to convince us.

The TLT Vertical FT integrates the ski brake, hopefully curing problems with release that have affected Dynafit’s after market brakes. The design looks kind of modern in a 1970s office furniture kind of way and the toe-piece and heel are linked by plate. The Dynafit representative we spoke to said this was purely for looks and served no purpose, other than perhaps to convince certain unbelievers to adopt the system. Weight wise the binding begins to get close to the Silvretta Pure. The front boot lock on the FT and ST is redesigned to be easier to use and Dynafit claims a 20% increase in stability. However you won’t using either binding to huck serious cliffs… well okay at PisteHors we have been known to get a few meters air with the original TLT but it is not recommended.
02-18-2006, 01:17 AM
upallnight

Looks like mostly marketing hype and additional weight, which sort of defeats the purpose of Dynafits. Many go w/o brakes (esp for sole BC use), so the brake issue seems irrelevant.

Looks like a paint job & new "extreme/freeride" graphics.

I held a pair of Dynafit Ti Race bindings today and....wow! They make the Comforts feel like beasts. Yikes!

I've taken some air on my Comforts (like any other BC binding, it demands either soft snow or smoooooth style) and do have some mounted on "big" skis (Explosivs, Seth Vicious). Nice that they allow you to have the performance of the heavy ski w/o the full-on weight hit of the ski + Fritschi.

Be curious to see these new ones in person, but I doubt I'll be switching over. Wonder what the additional $$ will be for the "fake carbon" look!?!?

Just my $0.02.
02-18-2006, 03:18 AM
davidof

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight

Looks like mostly marketing hype and additional weight, which sort of defeats the purpose of Dynafits. Many go w/o brakes (esp for sole BC use), so the brake issue seems irrelevant.

Be curious to see these new ones in person, but I doubt I'll be switching over. Wonder what the additional $$ will be for the "fake carbon" look!?!?

Our piece didn't join any marketing hype as you will see from the quote. Here is the rest of the article:

Dynafit 2007 binding range

Cost was in the 350Euro range for the FT with 100mm brake options.

If you want light weight with lowish cost go for the TLT Speed Lite.
02-18-2006, 04:56 AM
Trackhead

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight

and do have some mounted on "big" skis (Explosivs, Seth Vicious). Nice that they allow you to have the performance of the heavy ski w/o the full-on weight hit of the ski + Fritschi.

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Dynafits are the stiffest binding laterally, on the market. Stiffer than Fritschi Free's, Pures, Naxo, etc.

So yes, they do work well on fat skis.

I had them mounted on a pair of 110mm waisted skies last year, APD skis them on the 99mm waist of the Bro's.
02-18-2006, 05:41 AM
laseranimal

they'd get me to switch over if they bumped the din up to 11 or 12
02-18-2006, 06:15 AM
Trackhead

Quote:

Originally Posted by laseranimal

they'd get me to switch over if they bumped the din up to 11 or 12

Do you really need a DIN that high? Maybe I just suck (I'm sure of that), but seems like 10 works fine for most scenarios you will encounter with them.

You can 'lock' the toe out and leave it in touring mode, giving you an effective din of 10+. Atleast that's what everyone says.

I 'lock' my toes out whenever I ski anything I can't afford to have my ski fall off on.
02-18-2006, 07:11 AM
laseranimal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trackhead

Do you really need a DIN that high?

meh maybe, I normally ski at a 9 (5' 11" 235) so I'm just not psyched about having the spring almost maxed out, I'm sure the 10 din setting on the dynafits would be fine but an 11 or 12 would be a lot more comforting mentally
02-18-2006, 05:07 PM
upallnight

Quote:

Originally Posted by laseranimal

meh maybe, I normally ski at a 9 (5' 11" 235) so I'm just not psyched about having the spring almost maxed out, I'm sure the 10 din setting on the dynafits would be fine but an 11 or 12 would be a lot more comforting mentally

Yeah...I definitely don't weigh as much as you, but for skiing a couloir or backcountry skiing, I don't think many people need more than a 10. Also, like TH said you can lock down the toes. You really aren't coming out of them with toes locked down + DIN @ 10.

I just skied mine inbounds today....and skied them hard, including some steep terrain, variable to very-firm snow, and small drops. No issues there.

Like TH said, they are laterally stiffer than the Fritschis. They are just fine railing very high speed groomers (even on the 99mm waist skis I was riding today). The only advantage (/disadvantage depending on how you look at it) is that for some fat skis the rise on the Fritschi helps improve edge-to-edge quickness.

I've been riding my Dynafits on skis from 70mm, 90, 92 & 99mm waists w/o any issue, for years (not the 99...that's new).

I do like the Fritschis on my 105mm waist ski, but I wouldn't be opposed to using the Dynafits on 'em...it's just that I tend to do bigger drops on those skis than any other.
02-18-2006, 06:50 PM
3pin

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight

Looks like mostly marketing hype and additional weight, which sort of defeats the purpose of Dynafits. Many go w/o brakes (esp for sole BC use), so the brake issue seems irrelevant.

Looks like a paint job & new "extreme/freeride" graphics.

I held a pair of Dynafit Ti Race bindings today and....wow! They make the Comforts feel like beasts. Yikes!

I've taken some air on my Comforts (like any other BC binding, it demands either soft snow or smoooooth style) and do have some mounted on "big" skis (Explosivs, Seth Vicious). Nice that they allow you to have the performance of the heavy ski w/o the full-on weight hit of the ski + Fritschi.

Be curious to see these new ones in person, but I doubt I'll be switching over. Wonder what the additional $$ will be for the "fake carbon" look!?!?

Just my $0.02.

Nope... having seen those in person, three big changes. Beefier, bigger lever off the toe, which is probably the most cosmetic (really just to inspire more faith in those that haven't used Dynafit before). The plate is intended to stop the releasing-from-the-heel problem that can happen when a ski flexes really deeply without something underfoot (ala Freeride). Finally, the "volcano" (the heel post) is now built into the top of the heel mechanism, rather than just a screw-on post on top. Dynafit claims that breakage issues with the post were actually from screws loosening in travel and snapping off on the climb, rather than weak construction. Either way, the integrated volcano (the whole yellow piece on top) should solve the problem. Well-engineered, I think.
02-18-2006, 11:09 PM
upallnight

Like the integrated volcano; haven't expereienced any issues with any of mine though (yet, knock on wood).
02-18-2006, 11:15 PM
upallnight

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3pin

Nope... having seen those in person, three big changes. Beefier, bigger lever off the toe, which is probably the most cosmetic (really just to inspire more faith in those that haven't used Dynafit before). The plate is intended to stop the releasing-from-the-heel problem that can happen when a ski flexes really deeply without something underfoot (ala Freeride).

Again...looks like a weight increase for the first one.

Never encountered the 2nd issue w/ my Dynafits...but, then again, I only ever experienced the 'insta-tele' Fritschi issue once or twice in 9 years of riding them every day.
02-19-2006, 09:26 AM
uncle crud

Quote:

Originally Posted by laseranimal

meh maybe, I normally ski at a 9 (5' 11" 235) so I'm just not psyched about having the spring almost maxed out, I'm sure the 10 din setting on the dynafits would be fine but an 11 or 12 would be a lot more comforting mentally

excellent point. wouldn't give me much comfort to do anything pointing downhill if I were your size on a DIN 10 max. unless, of course, Dynafit has found a way to make their springs perform best toward the "max" end of things. heh.
02-19-2006, 09:54 AM
AKPogue

I am 6'3" and 220 and spent almost 10 days on my dynafits that I bought this year. I have had no problem with them at all. Also 7 of those days has been inbounds.
02-19-2006, 08:21 PM
pde20

Volcano on one of my comforts broke today, or at least I noticed it today. 5th day I've had on them, though I bought them used form someone who claimed less than 5 days on them. A little dissapointed, but still dig on the binding. Makes me think the integrated volcano is a very good modification....Dawson has shown some replacement volcano fixes, though my access to an acetelyence torch to weld on the metal is quite limited.
02-20-2006, 12:14 PM
the_eleven

Trackhead has a good fix for the broken volcano problem.
02-22-2006, 11:53 AM
pde20

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_eleven

Trackhead has a good fix for the broken volcano problem.

What is it? I just got Life Link to send me a replacement volcano to carry around until the cracked one really breaks, but interested in any custom fixes that don't involve welding.