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I'm shopping for a boot for my 15 year old, who is a very aggressive resort skier (bumps, steeps, 99% off-piste). In years past he skied primarily resort with 2-3 back country days. He wants do more BC this year and I started looking at hybrid boots (i.e. Lange XT3, Technica Cochise). Is this a dumb idea and I should just get him a dedicated resort boot? Is there a big trade off for performance? He's a lightweight, 5'8" 135 lbs but growing and really pushing it at the resort.
15 yrs ago I got hybrid garmont cuz i wasnt sure how much BC I was gona do the hybrid Garmont were kind of it for the hybrids and they fit me, most hybrids did not have the Tech fittings back in the day,
eventualy I was doing a lot of BC and I wanted to run a Tech binding so I got a seperate alpine and a seperate BC boot, first the pretty skookum Mercury and then the Vulcan, same shell but really skookum
so IME junior will probaby want a better boot its just a question of when ?
I gave those garmonts to a GF
the good news is that new or used there are more good boots out there now than 15 yrs ago
I would at least get a AT boot that takes a Tech binding
edit: at 135 hybrid will be better for him than they were for me at 165
I think you’re on the right path. Hybrid boots have come a long way. I’d get him a boot that leans resort but still has a walk mode. He’s young and can struggle on the skin track for those handful of days.
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i've been in lupos for the last 3 years riding lifts 90% of the time. no qualms whatsoever.
For this cause, I’d definitely go hybrid boot. He’s light and feet are still growing. Hawx xtd, lupo, Cochise, etc should do well
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my 18 year old skied Cochise DYN jr for years ski racing and touring
now he’s in a Dalbello Lupo
some hybrid boots rock
Another option, which I use, is a hybrid boot with 2 liners. One for touring, and a wrap liner for resort days.
All things being equal a resort and a touring or hybrid boot is better. After being in (and breaking) a Cochise for a few years, It was a real treat to get back into a resort boot. I still have the Cochise for flopping around, though.
What about one of those daymakers with a resort boot or resort boot with walk mode? Does anyone have experience with those?
those things fucking suck
Cochise
You are obviously young now cuz junior is only 15 but if make him use daymakers he will eventualy put you in a shitty home
Thanks for letting me know hahaha
Long time Cochise-only user, now also have a Mach1.
The Mach1 is clearly a better inbounds boot, but I did just fine with the Cochise, and given his feet are probably going to grow, this is a perfect use case for the hybrid boot.
The Cochise will break and/or develop slop after a season or two (even at his size), but given he's going to grow, that shouldn't be an issue. My current solution is to reserve the Cochise as a travel boot when I need the ability to tour, so that cuts down on the number of days it sees and prolongs the lifespan.
my son never got much more than a season and a half because he was growing - I think one long season he wore three different boots - super easy to just buy the next size up because I knew they’d fit
consistency is a good thing - for the kid and the parents, and coaches as well
he got to a point where women’s fit way better than kid’s or men’s - not unusual for preteen boy
replaceable sole blocks are nice for resale value
I ski Nordica Strider 120 inbounds with the leather Zipfit Workhorse liner (which I think adds a bit of stiffness). The stock Strider liner isn’t bad though. I think you can find them fairly cheap as they are discontinued.
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Thanks, a lot of good info. Think I'll look at the burlier hybrid boots that have a tech fitting. My experience is with a dedicated touring boot (Hoji Pro) that would suck and probably break in bumps.
Those Daytrippers look awful! ? He does have an AT setup, but the boots are women's. Correct length but his foot got really wide this year. I really don't want to but two pair of boots so hoping the hybrid ones work.
This is exactly what I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by milestogo
Ran a couple seasons on Cochise, it's just a Mach 1 MV with pins and a bit less excess mass. With the 120 flex Mach 1 and 130 flex Cochise after a couple of seasons to break in they now feel about the same stiffness. But with having to adjust the forward pressure ever so slightly and completely redo the AFD it's too much hassle to switch between them all the time.
I'm missing something. Why do you need to adjust the forward pressure? Is that when switching two boots on one binding?Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeMagnet
Mine was on the Cochise Jr (non DYN) for the last two seasons. Great boot but think it's too narrow for him now. Now that I think of it, it's basically a hybrid boot without the tech fitting... So that answers my question. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
with swapable Garmont heel blocks i only ever changed them once or maybe twice a ski season, so I would run the screws all out with a power drill real fast but then put them in carefully by hand all of which took about 15 minutes
have him try the women’s or the men’s adultQuote:
Originally Posted by slcdawg
One's standard soles, one's gripwalk. And beyond that despite identical BSL I still have to ratchet the Cochise pressure a few steps back.Quote:
Originally Posted by slcdawg
What size boot does he take? I’ve got some strider 120’s and older green zero g guides in 24.5 I’d sell.
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Thanks, I think he's a 25.5.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeMagnet