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New ski from them. Full redesign from the 107. Designed with input from Chris Rubens. 1540 grams in a 184, more tail rocker, stiff tail (per cy whitling). Looks to fall in line with the Wildcat tour 108, and the vision 108’s but at a slighter light weight.
Anyone have any time on these? Curious what the recommended mount point is.
https://www.atomic.com/en-ca/shop/pr...ml#color=37826
Bumping these questions
Bump!
surely someone is skiing these somewhere
The Blister gear guide says the recommended mount point is -6.6 cm from center for the 184
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Also curious and considering these in a 184 paired with midweight boot (Skorpius). Anyone on these?
I haven’t skied em (yet). From friends who spent time on them:
A fun soft snow oriented ski. Relatively powerful for the weight, but is not a high speed, rough conditions charger. Was compared to the La Machine Mega.
Again, not my personal take.
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Been waiting for a good replacement to my do everything well enough touring ski and these in the [emoji637][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji640]][emoji640] seem to fit the bill for the most part. I’m torn between these and the echo [emoji637][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]]][emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]] and draco. Would pair it with a moment voyager/atk binding and technica zero g pro boot. Anyone been on all three of these?
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The Draco is definitely more of a bruiser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiwald
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That selection spans quite a large weight and performance range.. The Atomic is certainly not a bruiser, the Echo is somewhere in the middle but soft and damp (neither of which I would use to describe the atomic). Skip's characterization of the Draco seems like all that needs to be said...Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiwald
**Disclaimer, I have a set of Backland 109s in the shed, but haven't skied them yet. Have spent significant time on the Draco/Echo.
Thanks for the input! Currently running enf 104 unlimited, amplid facelift 108, whitewalker, and older gen nocta for touring. This ski would replace the amplid.
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Demoed a pair inbounds today. Snow was firm. They were easy to turn and pivot quickly and carved surprisingly well for their weight and width.
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I skied a couple runs on a pair the other day of six inches of blower on firm. They skied really well. Surprisingly good for how light they are. Tail did feel fairly stiff, but some of that was due to conditions and I’m sure it’d feel better in softer snow. I’m intrigued enough that I’m seeing if an atomic guy I know can get me a screaming deal.
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A little bit of a thread drift, but when do you reach for white walker? I have a pair and debating whether to mount touring binders or get a Draco / corvusQuote:
Originally Posted by Skiwald
Can anyone provide some input to comparisons to other skis in this weight class / function? I was trying to compare other versatile mid-winter skis like Faction La Machine Mega or Blizzard Zero G 105.
Easy to turn and quick pivoting sound good! Maybe these are the ticket.
I ski the WW mounted with moment voyager (ATK) bindings any time I know it will be powder(skied them today). For me the WW is too light for a resort ski but It’s my favorite touring ski for pow in general. I only take the nocta for crazy deep days or just because. The amplid was my do everything touring ski(spring time easter sierras and volcanos to mid winter pow), unfortunately I broke one ski. I since repaired it but it’s been delegated to a rock ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qilimanjaro
I was considering the draco but after skiing the backland and considering that I want this ski to fit as a ski for any type of condition it’s probably not what I want. I like a tighter turn radius for the firmer conditions. So I’ll likely get a backland or echo. I think the draco would be a good touring ski for pow though.
The corvus looks super interesting but I currently ski a sender free with cast for that use case(resort chop/pow and sled skiing when it’s pow but also variable conditions.
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Thought I'd bump this one more time and ask again?
Anyone skiing this ski paired with light or semi light boot? I've been very impressed with backland 85 uls and wondering if I should stick with the backland series for the powder ski too. Is it a relatively approachable ski or does it require quite a bit of attention?
Seemed very approachable to me. Big caveat being that the mount point is progressive on the one o nine, some traditional skiers might feel like there’s too much tail. I believe the skinny backlands are pretty traditional.
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Progressive mount is a positive for me! Thanks for the feedback
Me too. There’s not many skis this light designed around a progressive mount.
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That's just the thing. It seems so odd in a way, but I guess people don't like longer tails for touring?
I think most touring skis are designed by old school skiers. They still keep making ski bindings with stupid ramp angles, which makes ski makers design skis with more rearward mounts to accommodate the stupid ramp angles. Listening to the athletes is fairly new in the ski touring world. These with a marker alpinist binding seems like a sweet set up.
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Ha. I've actually got a set of alpinists waiting for me to pull the trigger on a set of skis