Just get a Toyota Corolla with decent winter tires.
https://youtu.be/atayHQYqA3g
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Just get a Toyota Corolla with decent winter tires.
https://youtu.be/atayHQYqA3g
Well, yes .
yeah but he is british and they can't drive
it hardly ever snows in my town
I can't afford snow tires so I don't need snow tires
pick one of the above ^^
All that shows is good winter tires are important, which anyone who drives in snow already knows...
It'd be interesting to repeat the test with them both using the same tires to see how much 4WD really buys you.
actualy it quantitatively shows by how much 2wd and winter tires trump 4x4 with summer tires
but how many threads are there where buddy will chime in that he does fine without snowtires ?
I drove a lot of highway up here in a 4 door Toyota 4-runer for 3-4 years and even with good studded snows the high cg/ short WB woudl scare the hell outa me probably 6 times a season whereas a VW golf with 4 studded Haks was way less scary
I read on the internet 4x4s are invincible!
Here's the best way to insure you have traction...
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Well duh... Everyone knows "Tires">"Tyres"......
last week even with studded snows the brewery guy was stuck shleping 3 kegs of beer up to the ski hill in his mini-van so buddy transferred all 3 kegs to the front seat and made it
I've driven more than a couple fwd cars up hills/driveways in reverse to get the engine weight over the front tires/tyres.
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What about tires with macho tread but all-season rubber? Doing the snows + steel wheels vs. new M+S now. M+S were fine on my AWD wagon last year but it's time to replace them.
Specifically thinking about Yokohama Geolandars right now, if anyone has opinions on those.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...cleSearch=true
4WD with all-season tyres (tires?) = 4 wheels spinning. Don't even consider stopping or turning which is generally important.
Winter rubber compound makes a huge difference, even on roads that are just wet when it's below 40*F. It's the price of doing business in places where it snows with some regularity.
Nokian rules! [in] World Cup freebies!
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I’ve got geolanders on the sienna awd minivan.
We run snows on steel wheels or we’d never get home.
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4wheel drive doesn't equal 4 wheel stop.
I think the same issues for SUVs that my 73' Corolla faced up in Maine back in the day, offroad that is.....pretty sketchy clearance combined with little room in the wheelwells for an aggressive tire.
I watched a brodozer yesterday on some 30-some inch tires spinning in 4 on a slight incline of glossy packed snow. It was a little sad to see the tricked out “off-road” setup utterly useless on an otherwise developed road.
And that folks is why I-70 is a complete shit show. Only those summer tires are often on 2wd cars. I’d be happy if everyone out here had at least decent all weathers.
I would refute that. Growing up in New England, it's extremely common for people to have driven with dedicated winter tires. I think it's totally insane.
Among the 84 percent of snowbelt drivers who will prepare their car for winter weather, only a quarter (25 percent) plan to equip or already have equipped their vehicle with winter tires this season.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300001625.html
Okay, guess that attitude is more prevalent than I ever imagined. I thought anyone who drives a fair amount in the snow would know tires beat 4WD any day of the week, and also that 4WD doesn't help at all with deceleration, which is the cause of most accidents.
Honestly thought this thread was gonna be about the high COG of SUVs, which is a well-known issue. Subarus have their downsides, but it's nice to have a low COG and as much clearance as your average SUV.