Preseason Training

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03-14-2005, 01:44 PM
runethechamp

Preseason Training/Injuries

Just to not hijack Mtn Man's thread, I figured it was worth asking people what kind of preseason training people do to get ready for ski season. f2f asked this question here so I started wondering.... are people overestimating their physical capabilities a lot or are all these injuries just bound to happen within a community of skiers of this size.

Personally, I do a ton of strength training before ski season starts, both for my legs and in general. Lots of squats, lunges, leg extensions, various hamstring excercises and plyometric training. I've been fortunate enough to never injure myself while skiing, but that might just be pure luck.

Final questions: Do you do any specific traing for ski season? And if you have been injured, do you think it could have been avoided with better preparation for the season?
03-14-2005, 02:04 PM
snow_slider

Drinkin' beeeeeers....smokin' weeeeed.
03-14-2005, 02:08 PM
edg

I don't do anything, but I suck.

edg
03-14-2005, 02:27 PM
Keoni

I try to have as much sex as humanly possible. There’s nothing worse than having a lot of pent up sexual tension.
03-14-2005, 05:08 PM
ski4life

Quote:

Originally Posted by runethechamp

Just to not hijack Mtn Man's thread, I figured it was worth asking people what kind of preseason training people do to get ready for ski season. f2f asked this question here so I started wondering.... are people overestimating their physical capabilities a lot or are all these injuries just bound to happen within a community of skiers of this size.

Personally, I do a ton of strength training before ski season starts, both for my legs and in general. Lots of squats, lunges, leg extensions, various hamstring excercises and plyometric training. I've been fortunate enough to never injure myself while skiing, but that might just be pure luck.

Final questions: Do you do any specific traing for ski season? And if you have been injured, do you think it could have been avoided with better preparation for the season?

Yoga and Plyometrics 3 days a week/Weight Training 3 days a week
03-14-2005, 05:13 PM
Snow Ranger

Before my ACL injury my only training for the ski season was biking, backpacking, kayaking and backcountry. A few years ago I did yoga all the time but preseason this year I stopped. I sometimes wonder if I had kept up with the yoga could I have avoided the injury. Training for next year I will be doing all the same type of stuff but def. will throw in yoga weight training and balance stuff.
03-14-2005, 06:31 PM
Duder

Don't ever workout for the ski/ snowboard season. BUT I do lift weights for the waterski/ wakeboard season.

I am currently on a 3x week upper body strength workout and a 2-3x week jogging regiment. Gots to get strong and tone for the ladies....and, oh yah, wakeboarding too.
03-14-2005, 06:49 PM
Cliff Huckable

"Preseason training" is what we in BC are calling 2004-2005.
03-14-2005, 06:52 PM
bigtrubs

^ agreed!

also, bike bike bike. whether it's spinning at the gym (I HATE the gym), mountain biking or road biking- that's what's going to help maintain your core and leg strength. I had a better season than usual cause my legs were so strong.
03-14-2005, 07:00 PM
Squirrel99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff Huckable

"Preseason training" is what we in BC are calling 2004-2005.

LOL! POTD! :D
We're right there with ya in Washington.
03-14-2005, 07:02 PM
nealric

Summer is climbing season
winter is skiing season

They train for each other- except the big quads at the end of the ski season suck trying to climb overhanging routes.
03-14-2005, 07:27 PM
phUnk

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtrubs

^ agreed!

also, bike bike bike. whether it's spinning at the gym (I HATE the gym), mountain biking or road biking- that's what's going to help maintain your core and leg strength. I had a better season than usual cause my legs were so strong.

Trail running is even better (if your knees, etc. can handle it.)
03-14-2005, 07:30 PM
bigtrubs

^ that too! I would rather die than get stuck in a stuffy gym, I bike and run for exercise.
03-14-2005, 09:04 PM
altagirl

Unfortunately - my torn ACL in September came AFTER getting in the best shape of my life (weights, cardio, lots of biking, etc.) Doc said it was just a matter of time, wear and tear, the way my knees are built (not to go into tons of detail, but he drilled out part of my bone this time to make a better path for my ACL), etc... So no, getting in better shape didn't seem to protect it from anything. Probably should have been doing balance work though.

But yes, I have, and will continue to do a lot of balance and strength training to stay in shape for biking and skiing. I bought some extra toys to train balance at home after this last surgery. Apparently it's been working well - so far my season consists of a few easy runs last Wednesday, groomers at DV on Friday, Alta 1/2 day Saturday and just a couple of runs of tele on Sunday for my first days back and I don't feel sore at all. My calves were sore for the first day, but I think that's boot readjustment. My co-workers that I skied DV with on Friday are still hobbling around and were too sore to walk all weekend from their 3/4 day of groomers. I'm the one who feels out of shape because I've done nothing but rehab all season and I feel great.

I think training can prevent some injuries - but not all of them. Just don't forget balance work in addition to strength training.
03-15-2005, 06:47 AM
Nohillsnearby

Ski Season Preparation Exercises

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Ski Season is Here! Use the following list of exercises to help you get ready.

*Visit your local butcher and pay $30 to sit in the walk-in freezer for half an hour. Afterwards, burn two $50 dollar bills to warm up.
*Soak your gloves and store them in the freezer after every use.
*Fasten a small, wide rubber band around the top half of your head before you go to bed each night.
*If you wear glasses, begin wearing them with glue smeared on the lenses.
*Throw away a hundred dollar bill - RIGHT NOW!
*Find the nearest ice rink and walk across the ice 20 times in your ski boots carrying two pairs of skis, accessory bag and poles. Pretend you are looking for your car. Sporadically drop things.
*Place a small but angular pebble in your shoes, line them with crushed ice, and then tighten a C-clamp around your toes.
*Buy a new pair of gloves and IMMEDIATELY THROW ONE AWAY!
*Secure one of your ankles to a bed post and ask a friend to run into you at high speed.
*Go to McDonald's and insist on paying $8.50 for a hamburger. Be sure you are in the longest line.
*Clip a lift ticket to the zipper of your jacket, get on a motorcycle and ride fast enough to make the ticket lacerate your face.
*Drive slowly for five hours--anywhere--as long as it's in a snowstorm and you're following an 18-wheeler.
*Fill a blender with ice, hit the pulse button and let the spray blast your face. Leave the ice on your face until it melts. Let it drip onto your clothes.
*Drink several ounces of water (or another beverage of choice), dress up in as many clothes as you can; now, quickly take them off because you REALLY, REALLY HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM!
*Slam your thumb in a car door and don't bother to go see a doctor.
** Repeat all of the above every Saturday and Sunday until you're ready for the real thing.
03-15-2005, 08:02 AM
gravitylover

I think NoHills got it just about right, especially the burning and throwing out money part.

Agree completely with the bike, bike, bike training thing and trail running is also really good for coordination and timing training. For the most part My regimen is the same as snowslider though. I think that rune is right about the injury rate seeming very high here but it can definitely be an attribute of a community this size. The other part of that high rate is that we seem to feel a need to be the most "rad" dude out there and that is just opening the door wider. I know that twice this season I have backed off a line I KNOW I can ski but if I missed would've been potentially catastrophic. Many of us just aren't as young as we used to be and need to realize that. Yes our skill level is higher than it was years ago and our confidence in ourselves is higher because of that but the consequences of screwing up are worse than they used to be too. I'm not saying that all of the injuries this season could've been avoided but maybe we need to step back and take a better look at what we're doing. The other part could also be that we've reached (and in many cases exceeded) the middle ground as far as the compromise between what the new equipment is capable of vs what our (aging) bodies can take. The new skis can really do it like we wanted 15 years ago, but that was 15 years ago, and I hear a lot of talk here about how we need bindings with higher din ratings and then the next post is about a blown body part. Step back and take a good look before you leap kids.
03-15-2005, 09:35 AM
Mtn Man

Just so you know that I actually do get in shape. I mtn bike, rock climb, hike, play soccer, walk a lot, and generally eat well for training. Yes, I do hit the occasional brewfest, but everything in moderation is key. Go too hard at training, and you may do as much damage as no training. I'm not overweight, legs are quite strong, cardio is a bit lacking though.

The way I landed, most ACL's would have been strained. Funny line I heard from the patroller. They say "Most patrollers either have had ACL surgery, or will have it soon enough". My sleddog had both ACLs replaced.

B)