Avi ribbon

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11-13-2003, 03:12 PM
Lostinthetrees

Avi ribbon

Would a ribbon, say 100 feet long float to the surface to help ID were an avi victim is?

I bought some powder cords/ribbons and it did help me locate a lost ski. Quit using them and turn up my din...

Is there time for a person to pull a cord and have a ribbon released from their body. Perhaps even blow out the ribbon with a very mild charge, think micro air bag charge. And, would one end of the ribbon float in the snow so it would help locate the victim.

The churning motion of the slide might just wrap the victim in ribbon, ready to be mumified. :D
But, the ribbon's end may rise and provide a marker to start the search. Anyone tested this? LITT
11-13-2003, 03:15 PM
CS

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Originally posted by Lostinthetrees:
Anyone tested this?

Give it a shot and let us know how it works.
11-13-2003, 03:18 PM
frozenwater

most times the immense amount of blood from being grated through the trees helps you find avy victims.
11-13-2003, 03:20 PM
CaddyDaddy77

I think Mcgeyvor was saved in an avalanche this way, but he blew it out of his pole. Anyone remember that?
11-13-2003, 03:23 PM
Keoni

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Originally posted by CaddyDaddy77
but he blew it out of his pole.

:eek:
11-13-2003, 03:23 PM
Marmot

Shit, good idea. If the ribbon is less dense than a slide, it will have the best chance of floating to the top. Of course, the flow in the slide itself will ultimately influence the ribbon the most. You would probably only have to worry about choking or something of that sort. Getting wrapped up may not be a factor compared to the magnitude of how the avalanche itself influences you. I don't know. Anyway, if it was less dense and managed to float, and was demarcated in 5 foot intervals, it would really save some search time.
11-13-2003, 03:42 PM
Dr. Crash

There's the avalanche ball which is just that: a cord with a ball that will float on the surface of the avalanche (or try to).

drC
11-13-2003, 03:49 PM
Marmot

Dr.

Is the cord demarcated along its length?
11-13-2003, 03:54 PM
CaddyDaddy77

http://www.backcountrystore.com/imag...al/K2S0019.jpg

The Avalanche Ball is a highly effective safety measure, statistically shortening recovery times. During independent test scenarios performed in Davos, Switzerland, Avalanche Ball test victims were consistently found well under the 15-minute time limit the red line for live recoveries. Make no mistakes, the K2 Avalanche Ball is not intended to replace or diminish the importance of wearing and practicing with transceivers. A combination of safety tools, education, transceiver practice and a visual beacon defines the ultimate precaution for out-of-bounds rippers or inbounds off-piste explorers.
11-13-2003, 04:29 PM
Beaver

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Originally posted by Keoni
:eek:

2 drops
11-13-2003, 04:34 PM
CaddyDaddy77

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Originally posted by Keoni
:eek:

Ski Pole you perv!!:rolleyes:

Does this look like a guy who would blow pole??
[IMG]http://drs.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Macgyver+/v=2/l=IVS/*-http://www.teacuerdas.com/images/nostalgia-series-macgyver.jpg[/IMG]

OK, never mind....
11-13-2003, 04:54 PM
LCC

What if the ribbon only came to the surface at the end? So now you have people digging at that spot which could be 50-100 feet away from you. I think I'll stick with using my beacon.
11-13-2003, 05:09 PM
Marmot

LCC,

I think that the purpose of the ball out is to indicate where to begin the search. A beacon's range is limited, but yes, you should still use it. The AvyBall will allow you to get within the range of the victim immediately instead of casing the slide zone frantically waiting to pick up a signal.
11-13-2003, 05:22 PM
Alkasquawlik

[hijack] Shane Anderson and I skied with MacGeyvor last year at Squaw. He's much better than the average gaper. I was soooo tempted to say to him, "Ok, I've got a ski pole, some gum and some tin foil. Now make a bomb." That guy (second to Scot Schmidt) was my childhood hero.