Interesting article, thanks Grif! link
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Interesting article, thanks Grif! link
i went out skiing on staurday and there was a pretty big layer of surface hoar. but i got to ski ! so its all good right?
The best-case scenario is an unseasonably early start of winter where it snows in October and keeps accumulating without any cold, dry periods. I'll take that, please. In general, cold, dry periods blow and I'd avoid them if possible.
actually cold/dry periods don't blow imo. cold/dry spells cause many tourers to lose interest leaving the bc a much more solitary place and trailheads empty. cold/dry spells are great for go anywhere tours that are usually limiting when it's snowing. cold/dry spells create the most wonderful surface hoar formation which skis deeper by the day, which so few folks realize. as with touring frequently on high danger days (my fave), you can learn a lot by touring and making obs in cold/dry periods.
rog
Ya sure rog a thick layer of ice frosting on pow is great. Its softer and it makes that whoosh noise and the snow is sparklier. But those crystals get blown over and end up flat. Then you get that solid crap. And the sun bakes that into ice. And then its death. Just death. Ya. Skiing is scary dude.
well, just stay home then. shredder.
rog
... And then that sun baked crap gets another dumping of snow. And you go out and get awesome turns until you trigger that awesome surface hoar layer that you love so much and then I come along 2 days later and find your ear muffs on top of the debris.
yup, sounds about right :rolleyes2
got anything else insightful?
rog
Image upload fail.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...hmentid=101360
Them OCT. snows can be a blessin and the start of an epic stablie snowpack
or
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...hbum/sf018.jpg
A nov dec jan suspect layer of learnin waitin to be unleashed.
a Oct buried hoar layer led to someone takin a ride a few Nov. ago
funny thing is his partner and I missed it but my partners watched his bro get spit out the side of this silver fork shot known as Davenport.
the slide started small but propigated largely emcompassin a lot of terrain.
either way it is what it is
enjoy and learn
Welcome to the CDN Rockies. Early snowfall, thin snowpack and now all we need next is the cold snap. Just a matter of time before we have our first annual incident where some one decides to hop on some steep terrain and triggers some thing to ground in November.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamothe
hows easy is it to read the snow pack in those conditions? Wondering if its stupidity or lack of training and xpQuote:
Originally Posted by time2clmb
read your local daily avy report, every single day. when you go for a walk and poke around, think about what you read in the morning report. after some time, you'll start putting 2 and 2 together. the avy forecasts are there for a reason and speak volumes in very few words oftentimes. like, go or don't go. stick to this aspect verses that aspect at this elevation, not that elevation. it's really not too tough to pick up on, but you gotta go for lots and lots of walks to understand what the pros are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamothe
for me it was one simple lecture at the gmd by tremper my 1st winter in utah. he spelled it out pretty damn clear and concise. i then walked pretty much daily to get his "drift".
you'll never know unless you go, specially when the danger is on the rise. terrain choices are paramount on the up and the exits and trump any other sciences of snow safety imo. you can ALWAYS go if you know.
rog