Boot Fit Question - AT Scarpa

Bought some Tornado LEs off SAC. 29.5 liners in a 30.0 shell(30 shell used for 29.5 and 30.0 liner sizes). Strapped in and standing with knees properly flexed as if skiing, my toes don't touch the toe cap. Flip over to walking mode and my toes touch the toe cap. With the shell removed I have 1.5 fingers behind my heel on my right foot and 1.0 fingers behind my left foot while my toes can brush the front of the shell. Having this difference in foot size can be a bitch when fitting shoes. I am thinking if I slice open the toe cap, I could get the room I need to walk comfortably or even remove a bit of the toe cap?

A friend mentioned I might want the next size up just in case so I have room to kick steps when touring. Not sure how to test this at home minus kicking a board or the like.

Would slicing or removal of the toe cap be the right way to go or to get the next size up? Not familiar enough to be able to bank on these liners packing out.

Appreciate any input.

Let the liners pack out. That fit sounds about right. I was pretty worried about my Megarides being to small as I could feel my toes bang the front when walking just after baking but I've never had a problem and the liners have packed out a ton since then. IF you need more room in the toes then I would suggest seeing a good bootfitter and have them stretch the toe box a few mm and then stretch the toes of the liner. At least thats what I was taught to do by my boot fitting guru of a boss last season.

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Originally Posted by AsheanMT

Let the liners pack out. That fit sounds about right. I was pretty worried about my Megarides being to small as I could feel my toes bang the front when walking just after baking but I've never had a problem and the liners have packed out a ton since then. IF you need more room in the toes then I would suggest seeing a good bootfitter and have them stretch the toe box a few mm and then stretch the toes of the liner. At least thats what I was taught to do by my boot fitting guru of a boss last season.

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Second that. A heel wedge could also help. Also, are those cookable liners? If so, mold them weith a large toe cap.

I bought my Adrenalins a size too big because of the same fit problems and when the liner packed out, it was a loosing battle to try to shim and pad to get them to fit properly. I finally bought some Endorphins a shell size smaller, where my toes made contact with the front of the boot at first. A few days on them to pack the liner helped and then a minor toe punch and they fit like a dream. You can always make a boot a little bigger, but is very hard too make it fit smaller. I wouldn't be cutting the toe cap though. Have the shell punched first if necessary, after the liner has packed.

Hell yeah - this is reassuring. Will wearing these around the house help to pack them out at all before my first trip with them? Outta curiosity, how far can the toe box be punched out if needed? These boots have the cordura non-thermal liner.

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Originally Posted by somegeek

These boots have the cordura non-thermal liner.

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I'd imagine those non-thermo liners will have some pretty good packout loss, so give em some time.

I've found that the Scarpa heel retention buckle does a pretty good job of limiting toe bang in tour mode if you don't toally unbuckle it. Keeping it somewhat snug will probably limit your suffering on bootpacks and tours.

Second the suggestion of keeping the instep/heel buckle lightly buckled when walking, then tightening for riding. I think those boots came with a real booster strap (with scarpa branding on it), but if not, consider replacing the stock, rigid booster strap with a booster brand strap - huge difference. Again, when doing combo of skiing and walking, crank the top buckle down, adjust the booster strap, then you can loosen the top buckle when walking (or leave open), and let the elastic of the booster strap do its thing. Seems to work for me.

If you get thermo moldable liners to replace those stock ones, be sure to mold them with a neoprene toe cap so that you give yourself a little extra toe room. Works well for me in my Spirit 3's.