U.S. moves to terminate leases on public lands.

[toast2266]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-cost-efficiency-initiative/

Looks to terminate public leases and sell off public land that is deemed "no longer needed."

I don't see this as a win for the ski industry.

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[alias_rice]

There’s very few people that this will be a win for.

[bodywhomper]

Thanks for sharing the EO and link.

I think with the USFS, land “no longer needed” has an existing designation in the current forest plan. Otherwise, the forest or regional ranger likely has an easy argument for not disposing of the property. For leases, I think the assessment would be related to whether the lease is consistent with the forest plan. That’d probably be the process under normal bureaucratic gov paradigm. Hard to say how this’ll play out under the current patrimonial government paradigm.

[Hott Butt Mud]

What is "real property"?

[BCMtnHound]

U.S. moves to terminate leases on public lands.

What is "real property"?

Not sure exact legal terms for the US, but in Canada, this is essentially private property owned by an individual entity, with all the rights normally assigned to such.
Here, it doesn’t usually include mineral or other subsurface rights, or water that flows through overland and foreshore rights.

[toast2266]

Hard to say how this’ll play out under the current patrimonial government paradigm.

Definitely. Really hard to say how this will unfold. I'm sure there will be all kinds of pushback, but there's a lot of potential for this to be pretty bad. Even if the real world ramifications are just putting on pressure to jack up the prices of leases and extract more money out of public land.

If this was any other administration, I'd see this as a bit of tidying up that was probably worthwhile. Of course, I don't think any other administration would have done this kind of thing through an executive order.



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[Hott Butt Mud]

Of course this is scary. This administration has already shown some pretty wild takes (even if they are supposedly joking).

Just today, we had POTUS post an AI generated video to Gaza with golden Trump statues and Trump Gaza tower. The vision is clear - they want to dismantle the federal government, including federal lands, and their final outcome dream is Trump Aspen tower mid-way up Ajax, Trump Moab, Trump Yosemite, etc. Even if it's not a fully gold statue, they will settle for a lesser grandiose land sell-off. The ultra wealthy will purchase who will privatize the tourism, and/or completely block off land and use it for whatever resources they can extract.

[coldfeet]

It's of course utterly unclear what is going on. Most ski areas that I've seen that operate in whole or part on US Forest Service land have a statement like "operated under a special use permit from the USFS." It is probable that the special use permit is not the same, legally, as a lease. (In fact, my workplace, not a ski area, also operates under a similar FS permit.) There are Forest Service leases, which include things like the land under privately owned cabins, and probably a variety of commercial operations (mines? mining is its own bundle of weird and outdated laws).

Regardless, one thing this will do is create more uncertainty, and that's bad for businesses like ski areas.

[TBS]

USFS leases as lot of land to ranchers for grazing.
Terminating those leases (and those with BLM, a much larger expanse, will not go over well with the rugged individual, up-by-the-bootstraps MAGA crowd.

And FWIW, USFS already sells land that isn’t core to its needs.

[The SnowShow]

^^^ hopefully that’s exactly what will happen to these MAGA assholes. And hopefully the lease for whatever ski area our resident MAGAt skis at will be terminated as well.

[Toadman]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...cy-initiative/ Looks to terminate public leases and sell off public land that is deemed "no longer needed." I don't see this as a win for the ski industry. Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk

No wonder Trump wants to visit Fort Knox. He's going to do a major gold heist. He needs it for those 100 foot gold statues hes going to build at his properties.

[Hopeless Sinner]

My buddy, retired BLM/USFS says the original intent of the BLM was to dispose of the land under it's jurisdiction, apparently that time has arrived. He also said 300,000 acres was recently turned over to the Utah which would have the ability to sell it as it sees fit.

[jackattack]

Can’t you hear them?

Drill baby drill.

[The SnowShow]

U.S. moves to terminate leases on public lands.

So all that BLM land that off-roading enthusiasts enjoy will now be sold off?? Great job MAGats

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