Teton Gravity Research Forums Statistics

Collapse

Topics: 305,621   Posts: 6,864,471   Members: 413,493   Active Members: 12,176
Welcome to our newest member, Georgemichael.

Tahoe's Homewood Ski Resort Closed Indefinitely as Lee Majors Refuses Public Access

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • shaft
    Registered User
    • Sep 2007
    • 640

    #1

    Tahoe's Homewood Ski Resort Closed Indefinitely as Lee Majors Refuses Public Access

    This news deserves its own thread. Last Friday, after years of promises to local officials it would remain open to the public, Homewood Ski Resort informed its mailing list, and its staff, that it will not open the 24/25 season.

    The recent history is as follows:
    • Homewood, a 62 year old ski resort in the Lake Tahoe Basin, has been owned by developer JMA since 2006
    • In 2010/2011, a development Master Plan went through an extensive public approval process. The public support for the plan, and approval by the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency, was contingent on a requirement that the ski resort remain open as a public good. In exchange for that contingency, the plan approval allowed for a new gondola, lodge, a slew of high-end condos, and some concessions to local planning regulations like higher height allowances.
    • In 2022, equity investors Mohari Group and Discovery Land Co. became partners on the project. Discovery operates the Yellowstone Club, and a host of exclusive, members-only clubs for the ultra-wealthy.
    • For the last two years the developer has been trying to make changes to their plans and have various permits approved.
    • The public became weary of the plans, concerned that public access was being whittled out of the plans
    • The local planning agency has asked the developer to clarify public access given Discovery's typical 6 or 7-figure members-only models.
    • The developer continues to refuse to define public access, instead using cryptic messaging...similar to other efforts in Scotland, Routt County, CO, and elsewhere
    • The current permits are at a standstill, but the developer continues to promise public access
    • On Friday, Homewood announced they are not opening this year.


    Residents, especially those living near Homewood on the West Shore are generally devastated. Many Tahoe area winter sports enthusiasts who work during the week, like teachers and local government employees, will not ski this year - given the movement towards a reservation model at the other resorts within an hour drive of Tahoma.

    Here's the message from the public relations department of either JMA, Mohari, or Discovery Land Co.


    Here's the message from Keep Homewood Public, a public access advocacy organization
    Keep Homewood Public is a nonprofit coalition defending year-round public recreational access to Homewood Mountain Resort.


    Last edited by shaft; 10-17-2024, 08:05 AM.
  • ~mikey b
    can fly!
    • Jan 2004
    • 18845

    #2


    my parents at Homewood late 70’s in their jeans and Western Mountaineering down jackets

    it would be a shame to see Homewood go away - lots of memories there
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

    Comment

    • Harry
      is training for Alpental
      • Jan 2008
      • 15527

      #3
      Tahoe's Homewood Ski Resort Closed Indefinitely as Lee Majors Refuses Public Access

      I have experience dealing with Discovery Land Company from my time in Big Sky. Total shitbags. If they are involved, the general public will be fucked.
      "Zee damn fat skis are ruining zee piste !" -Oscar Schevlin

      "Hike up your skirt and grow a dick you fucking crybaby" -what Bunion said to Harry at the top of The Headwaters

      Comment

      • TahoeJ
        Expert Jong
        • May 2011
        • 16405

        #4
        Fuck these private equity douchebags who are ruining skiing.
        http://www.swirlo.com - Swirlo Golf

        Comment

        • californiagrown
          Registered User
          • Dec 2010
          • 5167

          #5
          To play devils advocate, wasnt Homewood relying on outside money to operate this year and in years past? As in, they were going to close in the early 2010s until this developer stepped in with a plan to make the ski area financially feasible and started subsidizing operations to keep homewood operating for the past decade+?

          And now that the development and permitting process has dragged on and been delayed, the private money backing the developer has pulled out so they can put that money to use elsewhere. Sometimes i get the feeling that people think developers control the money, when in reality the investors can pull their money out from the developers at any time (contract terms typically dependending on having permits in hand by a certain date).


          To me, it seems a little like this developer swooped in to save the ski resort from financial ruin and closing. And then the community pushed back on the developers plans and delayed everything so that the money pulled out, and Homewood is left back where it was prior to the developer.


          I could be totally full of shit here, especially if Homewood wasnt going to close prior to the developer coming in to take things over and keep the resort operating... but i feel like i remember that being the case?

          Comment

          • m2711c
            user, registered
            • Jan 2017
            • 9472

            #6
            not surprised… dudes pretty much been an asshole since his “accident”.




            won’t shut the fuck up about his damned “bionic cock”.




            fact.

            Comment

            • The AD
              Registered User
              • Oct 2003
              • 28622

              #7
              Maybe bigfoot can come back and kick his ass.

              Comment

              • Buster Highmen
                Used Register
                • Sep 2001
                • 28762

                #8
                Originally posted by californiagrown
                To play devils advocate, wasnt Homewood relying on outside money to operate this year and in years past? As in, they were going to close in the early 2010s until this developer stepped in with a plan to make the ski area financially feasible and started subsidizing operations to keep homewood operating for the past decade+?

                And now that the development and permitting process has dragged on and been delayed, the private money backing the developer has pulled out so they can put that money to use elsewhere. Sometimes i get the feeling that people think developers control the money, when in reality the investors can pull their money out from the developers at any time (contract terms typically dependending on having permits in hand by a certain date).


                To me, it seems a little like this developer swooped in to save the ski resort from financial ruin and closing. And then the community pushed back on the developers plans and delayed everything so that the money pulled out, and Homewood is left back where it was prior to the developer.


                I could be totally full of shit here, especially if Homewood wasnt going to close prior to the developer coming in to take things over and keep the resort operating... but i feel like i remember that being the case?
                My understanding is that the developers changed the initial plans and diminished the required public access. This occurred when the Mohari Group and Discovery Land Co joined in.

                Those changes hung up the permit process and as a result, some investors have withdrawn.

                So, it's a little more nuanced.
                Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
                >>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<

                Comment

                • nickwm21
                  ahhhh!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 6460

                  #9
                  Is Homewood on private land or a lease?


                  Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
                  Best Skier on the Mountain
                  Self-Certified
                  1992 - 2012
                  Squaw Valley, USA

                  Comment

                  • Buster Highmen
                    Used Register
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 28762

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nickwm21
                    Is Homewood on private land or a lease?


                    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
                    Both:
                    https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?pro...1&exp=location
                    The U.S. Forest Service announced Tuesday it has bought 284 acres on the West Shore. The land had been an undeveloped part of the privately owned Homewood Mountain Resort,



                    Homewood operates on private land with two USFS permits for certain adjacent terrain...

                    Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
                    >>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<

                    Comment

                    • rideit
                      ExteriorDecorator
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 36512

                      #11
                      USFS should really step in and flex some muscle.
                      “No reasonably priced public access=pulled permits to operate.
                      Done.

                      Hardball.
                      Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident

                      Comment

                      • californiagrown
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 5167

                        #12
                        Originally posted by rideit
                        USFS should really step in and flex some muscle.
                        “No reasonably priced public access=pulled permits to operate.
                        Done.

                        Hardball.
                        But if they do that, there is the very real possibility that the money behind the developers will walk because they were intent on creating a Yellowstone Club- Tahoe.

                        Ive been in the room a couple times when big developers have played or overplayed their leverage with a public jurisdiction, and seen 9 figure deals falter or fall apart at the 11th hour. Its a loss for everyone, and there is usually more to it behind the scenes than what the press releases state.


                        I guess in this case, if the devlopers walk, or if the developers get their way, then the public loses access to homewood. So why not keep fighting to maintain garauntees of public access? Hopefully its all bluster and homewood just misses the 24/25 season.

                        Comment

                        • nickwm21
                          ahhhh!
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 6460

                          #13
                          Tahoe's Homewood Ski Resort Closed Indefinitely as Lee Majors Refuses Public Access

                          Originally posted by Buster Highmen
                          Both:
                          https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?pro...1&exp=location
                          The U.S. Forest Service announced Tuesday it has bought 284 acres on the West Shore. The land had been an undeveloped part of the privately owned Homewood Mountain Resort,



                          Homewood operates on private land with two USFS permits for certain adjacent terrain...

                          https://www.trpa.gov/wp-content/uplo...2023.02.21.pdf
                          Thanks - so the way I read this - the resort and all the infrastructure is on private land except for quail lake and Ellis peak zones, which are not direct lift access.

                          Originally posted by rideit
                          USFS should really step in and flex some muscle.
                          “No reasonably priced public access=pulled permits to operate.
                          Done.

                          Hardball.

                          With what ball? See above…



                          Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
                          Best Skier on the Mountain
                          Self-Certified
                          1992 - 2012
                          Squaw Valley, USA

                          Comment

                          • rideit
                            ExteriorDecorator
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 36512

                            #14
                            Ah. I did not read the fine print.
                            Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident

                            Comment

                            • Buster Highmen
                              Used Register
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 28762

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nickwm21
                              Thanks - so the way I read this - the resort and all the infrastructure is on private land except for quail lake and Ellis peak zones, which are not direct lift access.
                              From the first link:

                              Permit will authorize operation and maintenance of the ski runs known as Main Cirque, 55 Chutes, Wally's Folly, The Shoulder, Third Creek, and Nooncester Traverse.

                              I thought some of the Quail lake zone is lift accessed; it's certainly part of the permit area.
                              Ellis is also represented as a snowcat area.

                              So, the USFS does have some leverage.

                              https://www.skihomewood.com/wp-conte...ForWebsite.pdf .
                              Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
                              >>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<

                              Comment

                              Working...