Race level bootfitting for touring boots??

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  • mntlion
    gear pimp extraordinaire
    • Oct 2003
    • 22525

    #16
    whats the shell fit like?

    If you are in the banff area (or want to come ski) let me know I"m working with Pulse boot labs and do both race and touring options

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    • jummo
      Registered User
      • Jun 2010
      • 214

      #17
      Often if someone has a specific anomaly like an accessory navicular, haglunds deformity, bunion etc., the ability to modify in that area, goes a long ways with product selection.
      As others have mentioned, external walk modes are often more difficult to punch. A zeppa that can't be dropped, thin plastic and other considerations need to be taken into account.
      It's not that those of us who do WC level boot service can't work on AT boots, it's more a matter of time spent to ROI.
      If you are a good bootfitter, you are already as busy as you can be. So when the phone rings, here are the four things they ask for in the order of priority:

      1a. I need all new everything.
      1b. I got my last boots from you and want a new pair/need an adjustment.
      2. My Coach/ Instructor says I need to see you (this often leads to 1a)
      3. I bought boots at shop X and they hurt and shop X can't fix them.
      4. I bought boot online and they hurt.

      As every experienced bootfitter knows, as soon as you touch a boot, you own it. Whether you charge some random walk in $25 for a punch or to fix the buckle they bent from walking down stairs with the boots unbuckled.

      It would be great if all I had to do all day was make every random person with a minor boot problem happy,
      (not really) .

      You should buy your boots from the person who you trust can make them work for you. And gets what the issues are and you have good dialogue with.

      It will probably cost more, but there is a big difference between price and value.

      Lastly, at some point bootfit issues can become surgical issues.
      Last edited by jummo; 10-08-2024, 06:26 PM. Reason: Clarification

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      • XXX-er
        Registered User
        • Mar 2008
        • 34296

        #18
        Originally posted by jummo
        You should buy your boots from the person who you trust can make them work for you. And gets what the issues are and you have good dialogue with.
        .
        either that ^^ or buy something Cheap & Shinny off the interent,

        wank about with it all season, get a new boot next year and complain about something anything anybody

        repeat
        Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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        • mntlion
          gear pimp extraordinaire
          • Oct 2003
          • 22525

          #19
          why do you need a AT boot that feels/skis like a race boot?

          when you are touring is it at 50+mph on ice?

          or do you race on super light fat skis with tech bindings?


          Its a cool idea, but not sure its solving a problem that is easily solved.

          As a boot fitter, I'd be happy to try, but set the expecatations first

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          • Yukonrider
            King of mediocrity
            • Oct 2007
            • 2758

            #20
            I would imagine this guy isn't asking to make his boots fit like race boots, but maybe for a boot fitter that can help fix his problems.

            I go to get my alpine boots fitted and the fitter has all sorts of tricks and ideas to take care of problems, and asks relevant questions.

            My touring boot fitter was out of ideas after a heat mold and a basic punch and referred me to a race boot fitter who referred me to the touring boot fitter who brought me the boot fitters class manual and I actually sat in the store and read the manual to figure out how to fix my issues myself...

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            • gretch6364
              at work
              • Oct 2005
              • 5056

              #21
              Race level bootfitting for touring boots??

              Originally posted by mntlion
              why do you need a AT boot that feels/skis like a race boot?

              when you are touring is it at 50+mph on ice?

              or do you race on super light fat skis with tech bindings?


              Its a cool idea, but not sure its solving a problem that is easily solved.

              As a boot fitter, I'd be happy to try, but set the expecatations first
              MntLion…what do you think of the new Salomon Shift?

              I am on my second pair of the S-Pro Alpha 130 and they fit like dream. For a inbounds uphill/boot pack boot, would you suggest I go with the Shift 130? Same size as my Alpha 130?

              Thx!


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              • mntlion
                gear pimp extraordinaire
                • Oct 2003
                • 22525

                #22
                Originally posted by gretch6364
                MntLion…what do you think of the new Salomon Shift?

                I am on my second pair of the S-Pro Alpha 130 and they fit like dream. For a inbounds uphill/boot pack boot, would you suggest I go with the Shift 130? Same size as my Alpha 130?

                Thx!


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                I dont retail salomon, but (like most brands) if one modle fits, stick with similar and you should be fine.

                Are both boots the same last/shape? Ya, stay the same size (unless you are doing REALLY long walks only with the shift)

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                • gretch6364
                  at work
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 5056

                  #23
                  Thanks. I will try to get them from my local bootfitter as I need another set of insoles as well…just soliciting opinions.

                  My understanding is yes, same last and shape. Walking distance would primarily be hiking highlands bowl.


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                  "We had nice 3 days in your autonomous mountain realm last weekend." - Tom from Austria (the Rax ski guy)

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                  • tuco
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3262

                    #24


                    They talk about Haglunds ~8:35
                    Last edited by tuco; 10-12-2024, 06:25 AM.

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                    • gregL
                      User
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 5557

                      #25
                      Originally posted by gretch6364
                      . . . what do you think of the new Salomon Shift?
                      Not that light and not really a pure touring boot, but the Shift Alpha BOA might work for the OP due to the locking mechaism being on top rather than at the heel. Haven't done it yet, but there should be enough clear spce to punch for Haglund's.
                      http://www.randosaigai.com

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                      • Shredhead
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 8957

                        #26
                        Originally posted by gretch6364
                        Thanks. I will try to get them from my local bootfitter as I need another set of insoles as well…just soliciting opinions.

                        My understanding is yes, same last and shape. Walking distance would primarily be hiking highlands bowl.


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                        Can't get much more local at Highlands, than Jummo.

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                        • gretch6364
                          at work
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 5056

                          #27
                          Race level bootfitting for touring boots??

                          Originally posted by Shredhead
                          Can't get much more local at Highlands, than Jummo.
                          Yep. These would be families 4th set of boots from him in the last 4 years. Wife needs a new touring boot too.

                          All have fit and skied perfect.

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                          "We had nice 3 days in your autonomous mountain realm last weekend." - Tom from Austria (the Rax ski guy)

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                          • jummo
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 214

                            #28
                            Originally posted by gretch6364
                            Yep. These would be families 4th set of boots from him in the last 4 years. Wife needs a new touring boot too.

                            All have fit and skied perfect.

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                            Thank you for the kind words. It's always nice to hear that someone likes what you did for them.

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                            • jummo
                              Registered User
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 214

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Shredhead
                              Can't get much more local at Highlands, than Jummo.
                              I'm trying to keep the whole thing kinda low key so I can do more bowl laps this season. That's why the j is lower case, I'm not that important.
                              Hope we all have a great season!
                              Thanks!

                              jummo

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