COVID Guidance for CO Ski Resorts: State Proposal and Feedback

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  • Vitamin I
    one-track mind
    • Jul 2004
    • 2331

    #1

    COVID Guidance for CO Ski Resorts: State Proposal and Feedback

    Looks like the state of Colorado released a draft of a proposal for COVID guidelines for ski resorts.
    See https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k58...6kockwXV5/view

    And you can submit feedback on that proposal for the next ~2 days.
    See https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...O7GlQ/viewform

    --- UPDATE: ---
    Final draft was approved by State of Colorado at https://covid19.colorado.gov/safer-a...as-and-resorts

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    Last edited by Vitamin I; 10-23-2020, 11:11 PM.
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  • iriponsnow
    Registered User
    • Oct 2004
    • 3496

    #2
    Ski area guests will not be required to ride on a chairlift or gondola with people
    outside of their party. Individuals who are not from the same party may ride a chairlift
    together with a minimum of one seat separating the unrelated individuals or parties;
    however, ski areas should generally encourage more space between different parties
    when possible.
    ● Gondolas should keep windows open, even in inclement weather. Gondolas should be
    limited to no more than two separate parties with adequate spacing, and not more
    than 50% capacity if more than one party rides a gondola together (single parties may
    reach full capacity). Specific spacing configurations and requirements should be
    addressed with the LPHA in the ski area plan. Consider posting reminders of these
    requirements within gondola cabins.
    ● Ensure 6-foot spacing between separate parties, in all directions, in chairlift and
    gondola lines by employing tactics such as extending staging areas and marking 6-foot
    increments for suggested standing. Instances where this requirement is unworkable
    should be addressed in the ski area’s plan and discussed

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    • Vitamin I
      one-track mind
      • Jul 2004
      • 2331

      #3
      "Require instructors and students 11 years of age and older to wear masks in
      accordance with the ski area’s plan, encouraging mask-wearing at all times while
      recognizing exceptions for safety, dining, or while individuals are actively engaged in
      skiing, riding, or other distanced outdoor activities."

      What's up with age 11 in there?
      From my California bubble, I've never heard of any place defining 11-years-old to be the cut-off for mask exemption. Documents by local govt of Summit County, CO say 2-years-old is their cut-off for masks, so why would it be 11-years-old at the state level?

      Also, IMO, the state guidelines for instructors/lessons/ski schools seem to leave plenty of wiggle room for ski areas to forsake risk management in favor of profit (and in favor of parents getting a break from their kids). We'll see if any ski areas abuse that wiggle room and get burned with outbreaks.

      Other than that, I'd say the state guidelines seem adequate for steering ski areas to create decent detailed policies together with local public health departments, etc.

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      - TRADE your heavy PROTESTS for my lightweight version at this thread

      "My biggest goal in life has always been to pursue passion and to make dreams a reality. I love my daughter, but if I had to quit my passions for her, then I would be setting the wrong example for her, and I would not be myself anymore. " -Shane

      "I'm gonna go SO OFF that NO ONE's ever gonna see what I'm gonna do!" -Saucerboy

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      • ski_adk
        Addicted Beater
        • Jan 2005
        • 1062

        #4
        Damn, so much for the singles line.

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        • not that guy
          Registered User
          • Nov 2016
          • 4

          #5
          The State of Colorado has adapted a baseline for guidance. Counties can do what they want as long as they adhere to the state guidelines or are stricter. So yes the state can say 11 but any county can make it an age younger than that.

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          • schindlerpiste
            Quatsch!
            • Sep 2005
            • 13457

            #6
            Restrooms: Increase ventilation [by peeing outside when possible].
            “How does it feel to be the greatest guitarist in the world? I don’t know, go ask Rory Gallagher”. — Jimi Hendrix

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            • 2FUNKY
              Registered User
              • Nov 2006
              • 10556

              #7
              I have no doubt the amount of yellow snow will increase by a factor of 10.

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              • schindlerpiste
                Quatsch!
                • Sep 2005
                • 13457

                #8
                I was very surprised to read that one of the guidelines “encourages” patrons to bring their own meals to the hill whenever possible
                “How does it feel to be the greatest guitarist in the world? I don’t know, go ask Rory Gallagher”. — Jimi Hendrix

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                • snowaddict91
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 4792

                  #9
                  Originally posted by schindlerpiste
                  I was very surprised to read that one of the guidelines “encourages” patrons to bring their own meals to the hill whenever possible
                  Well, Vail will never put that in writing lol.

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                  • Leshphilling77
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 1079

                    #10
                    I am trying to imagine what these lift lines are going to look like with people all spread out.

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                    • pfluffenmeister
                      lusty gear whore
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 7471

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ski_adk
                      Damn, so much for the singles line.
                      Didn't read the doc yet.
                      No singles?!?

                      I'm almost always lone wolf.
                      In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

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                      • adrenalated
                        average gaper
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 8431

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pfluffenmeister
                        Didn't read the doc yet.
                        No singles?!?

                        I'm almost always lone wolf.
                        Not quite but close.

                        Parties can request to not ride with other parties.

                        Different parties must have an empty seat in between them.

                        That means as a single you could request to ride the lift solo, or you could ride a quad with a double. In practice, I bet they just get rid of the singles line.

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                        • Core Shot
                          Registered Abuser
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 22549

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ski_adk
                          Damn, so much for the singles line.
                          I predict hookups with strangers outside the maze.

                          Invent a ski tinder app. Make millions.
                          Kill all the telemarkers
                          But they’ll put us in jail if we kill all the telemarkers
                          Telemarketers! Kill the telemarketers!
                          Oh we can do that. We don’t even need a reason

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                          • MakersTeleMark
                            ~~~(oYo)~~~
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 19860

                            #14
                            Originally posted by snowaddict91
                            Well, Vail will never put that in writing lol.
                            I am fully intending to reinstate grills at locations I haven't kept there in decades.
                            Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
                            This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
                            Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague

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                            • MakersTeleMark
                              ~~~(oYo)~~~
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 19860

                              #15
                              Originally posted by adrenalated
                              Not quite but close.

                              Parties can request to not ride with other parties.

                              Different parties must have an empty seat in between them.

                              That means as a single you could request to ride the lift solo, or you could ride a quad with a double. In practice, I bet they just get rid of the singles line.
                              Singles lines are completely out.
                              Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
                              This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
                              Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague

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