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2008 is carburetor 800. Pass. Etec or go homeComment
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Agreed, honestly a few more km on an etec for close to that price would be the way to go. Carb motors on those almost always need a new top end in less than 4000km. Etecs I've seen get 6500km by someone is full pin all the time or 10000 for average guy sled skiing.
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I'm looking to buy a sled for ski touring access in the Okanagan. Some questions for ya.
1. Beater truck vs Car and trailer?
2. Is this a good choice?2009 Ski Doo summit X 154
3. With the sled above, can I tow skiers or double up? Mainly thinking Snow covered roads to get to the skin track.
4. Where in Kelowna/Vernon should I get a radio?
5. Sled Storage? I live in Kelowna, work in Vernon. Any ideas for a cheap safe place?Comment
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Again, the 2009 is carb'd get an etec. 154 800 is a workhorse, towing is no problem.
Car or truck? Weird question. What do you drive now?Comment
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I've seen a guy pull single trailer with a Subaru and did ok but when the snow is deep (12" for a car lol ) you'll be the guy everyone is swearing at cause you're stuck and in the way.
Truck with 4x4 and GOOD tires.
Only by an etech 800 if looking at ski doo first year was 2011 but for a little extra $ I suggest looking for a 2013. 100% better chassis.
2010 m8 is also a bomb proof sled, have seen many with 10,000kms and running strong.
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I was that guy with the Subaru. Never had an issue with single place. Problem is that single place trailers cost almost as much as a double. So then you buy the double and that Subaru can't tow two on a double.
Did you say good tires? I think there might be a discussion going on about that topic....Comment
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I drive an Audi a4 wagon. I figured if there is enough snow to get stuck, I'll park and unload the sled, no?
This one then? Price is right? it's not red though?
Seems like a beater truck costs about the same as a good trailer. The insurance and maintenance is the real difference maker.
How do you guys feel about tracked ATVs?Comment
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I've owned multiple Ski Doos, both carbed and injected/ETEC and the carbed versions are just as durable and pretty much as powerful too. So don't worry so much about the engine type, focus more on the milage and condition (and the one you linked has too many miles - I put a new "short block" (reconditioned motor, comes from the factory) in whenever I hit 4000 miles, if I plan to keep a Doo long term). XPs (carbed engine version) are totally capable mountain sleds, but the handling was significantly improved on the XMs/ETECs. Another weird but significant difference is the throttle effort on the carbed version is way higher. My current main sled is a G4 and my backup is an '09 XP. I generally have to let beginnng riders use my G4 when we are heading out to access ski touring, because otherwise we will have to stop to rest their precious, soft little thumb muscles if I make them ride the XP. If you have the extra money get an XM, but if you can't get a decent XM at the top of your budget, don't buy one with a ton of miles or that looks thrashed, if you can get a pristine XP for the same price.
Regarding trailer v truck, if you don't have a decent tow vehicle now, sell what you got and buy a reliable truck. A used sled will require wrenching and you'll eventually have to learn to do some of it yourself. A beater truck will compound that cost and effort.Comment
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I've seen a4 wagons pulling sled trailers, so it can be done. Probably not too bad if you get a decent single place sled trailer. Resist the temptation to buy a heavy steel utility trailer if you're gonna pull it with that audi. That fancy transmission probably isn't designed to really pull anything heavy for any length of time.Comment
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Truck vs trailer is really dependent on where you are riding. If it is out of plowed staging areas with lots of room a trailer is fine. If you are up a narrow logging road you might find yourself having to disconnect a trailer and turn it around by hand, Can be a pain in deep snow or if you can’t find a flat spot. Then there is the whole trying to back it down the road when it turns out you can’t get it up that last steep hill before the parking.
Also would suggest looking at Arctic Cat M sleds if you need to stay early and cheap. Fuel injected and the motors are very reliable.Comment
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Whatever brand you get, make sure there is a good dealer reasonably nearby, for when you need parts and service. Cat shrunk its dealer network considerably over the past several years, so much so that there isn't a single Cat dealer left in the greater Seattle area. Closest ones to me are about an hour away, which becomes two hours once I factor in having to go pick up my sled from where I store it.Comment
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