Your Everyday Touring Pack

[meter-man]

What are folks using for their day-in, day-out every day touring pack?

15-40L size. Either analog or e-...I mean airbag pack. Recs needed!

Use will be single-day tours, dawn patrol, half-day, up to full-day. Infrequent resort/sidecountry use (10%); 90% foot-powered touring. Skiing in the California Sierra Nevada, generally with extra stuff (space blanket, first aid, repair kit, etc.).

Looking at:
Black Diamond Cirque 22 vest - vest-style. Really light. Never skied with a vest-pack.
Mammut Spindrift 26 - almost a vest, but with hip-hugging-hippockets. Cool design - never used a pack like this.
Patagonia Descensionist 32 - standard, simple, spartan. Familiar.
Black Diamond Jetforce Pro 25 - if I want to break the piggybank and float above rivers of molten snow.

What else should I be looking at?

Do the vests ski like crap, or are they Ullr's gift from touring heaven?

How about that Spindrift, with the skin pockets and wrap-around hip belt? Looks rad - xcept the Euro white colorway.

Is that Jetforce the best e-pack around?

Need:
- Everyday touring pack to use all year long.
- Back panel or similar access to main compartment
- Separate avy gear pocket

Want:
- Chest-mounted water carry possibilities
- One of those balloon things, maybe.

I have been using my Gregory Targhee 48 as a daily driver. It's too big and overkill, but carries everything well. I've used it for up to 5 day trips.
I also have an aging BCA Float 32. It's pretty solid, but a pain to travel with and too big for resort/sidecountry use.
And an ancient Black Diamond Stealth 35

[doebedoe]

For the last 4 years I've been in a 40L patagonia pack. It's felt pretty good most of the time. It's big but lightweight and compresses down so it never felt like overkill really. Details on it and what I pack most days here: https://imgur.com/gallery/XKzFXBR

This year I'm going to start carrying an airbag for the first time any day it isn't super mellow. I opted for the Scott E1 system and have both the 30L (thanks proform) and the 40L (thank SpyderJon!). I plan to use the 30L for most of the year -- when I need it for patrol, most day touring trips, side country etc. Plan to use the 40L for when I'm in a hut for a week/Lvl 2, and for spring when I need extra space for ski/boot cramps etc. If I was buying just one, the 40L is pretty clearly the superior bag with more space, a hip pocket, gear loop, padded waist band, and a superior avy storage solution. Hoping that I can get 6-7 years out of this system/packs.

I chose the E1 system over the Black Diamond because the ability to quickly swap in extra AAs for more charges, and the supercapacitors resistance to power loss due to cold, and weight.

[davjr96]

I have a ski pack addiction. Here's a list of various selects I have tried over the past few years.

Black Diamond Cirque 35:
Checks all of your boxes except the balloon thingy. Lightest weight of the bunch. Was my workhorse pack last year and will be this year.

Black Diamond Cirque 22 vest:
Neat, but found ski carry lacking and would overheat with the chest straps. Did carry well without skis however. I struggled to actually fit a probe and shovel handle in the small size.

Deuter Freerider 26:
Couldn't fit a normal length probe in it...

Blue Ice Yagi 25L:
My current inbounds/short tour pack. Would not hesitate to recommend anything in the blue ice product line that looks interesting to you.

MHW Snoskiwoski 40L:
New for this year, I am very excited to try it out. Was looking for a framed pack to carry a bit heavier loads than the cirque does.

[cat in january]

Gregory targhee 26. Carries everything I need. I have a abs airbag, but would look at a Scott pack today.

[gavinski91]

Near the top of my priority list is that the pack fits comfortably - my Osprey Kamber 30 does well in that regard, and meets your "need" requirements. Your torso isn't mine though, but I think going into a shop, throwing a bunch of weight into some packs, and seeing how they carry would be a good place to start.

[jacob_dbu]

The new TNF Snowmad 23/35/45 looks pretty dope. As does the MH Powabunga 32.

[TahoeJ]

I use the Black Diamond 32L one - not sure what it's called but they're really popular for a good reason. I'd rather error on the side of having a little extra space than too little.

So... take this with a grain of salt because it was the first year they came out, but I do not trust the electric airbags. Deployed mine once or twice as a test and then couldn't get it to work after that, then returned it. All of the various AK heli outfits won't use them either, at least to date, from my personal experience and from what I've heard elsewhere. Hopefully they've improved?

Edit: this is the one, and I'd buy it again: https://www.backcountry.com/black-di...pack-1953cu-in

[Charlie Don't Surf]

I've been using a 25l mystery ranch fuze inbounds and out for going on 10 years.
It has the MR futra frame, which seems a bit overkill for a pack this size but carries very nice.

Only problem is when the beaver tail and yoke get stuffed with snow after a tumble in pow.

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[Huskier]

Add the Gregory Targhee to your list. 35L. Slightly heavier than average but fully loaded with useful stuff like 3 different carry modes, quick access avy panel, dividers, helmet carry, etc

[PeachesNCream]

I have a BCA 32L but it has an airbag so probably close to a 25L. Maybe it's because I'm a larger guy, but the "backbone" of the pack just feels like a noodle. Sounds like Charlie's rec of the MR Fuse would be up my alley but nothing comes up when I google it, looks like the saddle peak might be the replacement? Anyone have recs for a ~30L pack with more a more substantial "backbone"/frame?

[toast2266]

I switch back and forth between a Gregory Targhee 32 and a Thule Upslope 35.

Gregory Targhee 32:
Pros:
-Well made
-Carries well, at least on my body
-Tall enough that avy tools fit inside without fussing

Cons:
-helmet carry doesn't work with diagonal ski carry (I like that configuration for short sidecountry boot packs, which I do a lot of)
-Tall pack means it's right behind your head, which is occasionally annoying.
-If it was a smidge bigger, I wouldn't complain

Thule Upslope 35:
Pros:
-The wing pockets are awesome. Super useful, easy access without removing the pack. Big enough to fit a water bottle in one side and skins in the other.
-Airbag compatible
-Well made
-Can do a helmet + diagonal carry at the same time.

Cons:
-Doesn't fit me super well. Shoulder straps are better situated for broad shoulders, which I don't have.
-If you're not using the airbag feature, it's just extra weight and wasted space.
-Has a fussy metal waist belt buckle (common on airbag packs)
-Expensive

[doebedoe]

Brundo -- airbag or no airbag for a more substantial backbone? Scott back is pretty stout.

[Lord Thomas]

I switched from a BCA Float 32 to an Ortovox Avabag 30 for day use. The ortovox is much more comfortable to carry, hangs on my shoulders better, is much lighter, and is pretty straight forward design. A minimal design. There are a couple of design features I don't like (e.g. layout of the main compartment zipper) so well but so far I haven't had any problems with it and all of my gear just barely fits in. It's on the small side for a 30L

[XXX-er]

Arcterxy KEA 37 or a Bora 40, I like the zippered pouch on the back to stow skins in, I've sent them in for minor repair and Arcterxy fixes them free

IMO you need a substantial enough pack with a suspension that will carry skis/ enough room for all the stuff you need out there ( sometimes its -25C ) and thats around 40 litres

[Blaster]

I'm a big fan of the Mammut Light 30L airbag. It's light for a balloon pack and cheaper than some of the E-airbag packs. It carries quite well, better than my buddies BCA float 32. Mine has held up well to ~250 days with only some modest wear.

It's a little small for some but here in balmy tahoe, I have no problem fitting a repair kit, first aid kit, PLB, space blanket, extra gloves, puffy, shell, water/food, Avy kit/snow saw, helmet and goggles in it. Can fit a lot more inside if I bump the helmet to an external sling.