Replacing Marker Griffon demo bindings for Look Pivot - worth it?

[SkifishSLC]

I own a pair of Bent Chetler 120s with Griffon demo bindings. I have the chance to pick up some Look Pivot 14 AWs for relatively cheap.

Do you guys think these will make much difference? From what I read, the Marker Griffon demos are one of the better demo bindings out there.. but I don't know how the compare to something like the pivots.

Thanks!

[sierra_cement]

Probably. I prerelease out of griffins on a pair of my skis more often than i prerelease out of pivots on my other skis.

My pivots are also easier to click into in powder.

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[waveshello]

I own a pair of Bent Chetler 120s with Griffon demo bindings. I have the chance to pick up some Look Pivot 14 AWs for relatively cheap.

Do you guys think these will make much difference? From what I read, the Marker Griffon demos are one of the better demo bindings out there.. but I don't know how the compare to something like the pivots.

Thanks!

IMO:

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

If the markers have been working well for you, if they keep you in when you want and let you out when you need, the pivots aren't going to change your life.

But if the pivots match better, then it's definitely worth it.

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[EWG]

Replacing Marker Griffon demo bindings for Look Pivot - worth it?

I will always pick any fixed binding over any demo binding.

[phatboy64]

I skied the Marker demo binding on a pair of Mantra M6 for three days. BTW I am a Look Fan Boy.
I had no issues, unless there was something you don’t like about your current setup not sure I would redrill

Edit: I agree, if it was a flat ski and I were picking bindings I would always go with the fixed setup...

[Brasso]

Not worth a redrill.

[PeachesNCream]

I'm in a similar situation but with Attack2 13 AT demo binders and thinking about switching to pivots. I've developed some slop which seems to be a theme with demo binders. I think I'll switch to fixed

[gregorys]

I will always pick any fixed binding over any demo binding.

I will always pick a demo binding over any fixed binding.

[gregorys]

Do you guys think these will make much difference? From what I read, the Marker Griffon demos are one of the better demo bindings out there.. but I don't know how the compare to something like the pivots.

Perhaps it makes sense?
I wouldn't.

I personally loan out skis a ton, and demo's are just handy. While I don't care for the heel pieces on Marker bindings, especially in deep pow - that's not a "demo" binding complaint. If I were picking between the marker demo and non-demo, I'd probably pick the demo because it has higher utility for me. But I'd pick something other than Marker, because I don't like the hassle getting into the heels on Griffon, et al. I actually have a pair of demo Jesters on my Bodacious' and I'll leave them (at least until I have issues with them), because they were mounted that way when I got the skis. They're not my favorite, but they're fine.

No modern demo binding (in the last 5-10 years) that I've skied is a problem. They all ski perfectly fine. A bit heavier than a non-demo, but most alpine skiers aren't exactly weight weenies.

If it makes you happier, then do it. But I don't think there's any technical or functional reason to do so.

[XXX-er]

I wouldn't bother changing them, IME a demo works fine They are heavier but a benifit is you can change up boot center on a demo with a couple of clicks,

you will sometimes get nose bleeds from being that high off the ski

[f=ma]

Not worth a redrill.

Agreed. Had attack2 demo bindings, redrilled for pivots. Not worth the redrill.

[PeachesNCream]

Hmm, now I'm rethinking. Esp because more heavy is more better in my mind. I have a little slop when I wiggle my ski, pretty minor but noticeable. You think it's enough to make a difference on snow? I don't notice but I only have demo binders and touring binders to compare to.

[gregorys]

Hmm, now I'm rethinking. Esp because more heavy is more better in my mind. I have a little slop when I wiggle my ski, pretty minor but noticeable. You think it's enough to make a difference on snow? I don't notice but I only have demo binders and touring binders to compare to.

I'm conflicted. I want your Attack2's, if/when you yank them...so that side of me says "Yes, absolutely, you'll love other bindings!"

But honestly? Once the binding is loaded with the back-pressure, any minor fiddle-room is going to be locked out. (At least that's my opinion.)
I don't know that "more heavy" is better, in total. But heavy isn't a problem in my mind.

Heavy alone isn't likely an attribute I'd look for, but I also know that all the skis I actually like, they're generally heavy as hell. So, tacking on a bit of weight for demo's isn't something I view as a problem worth worrying about.

[SkifishSLC]

Appreciate all the feedback everyone! I'm going to stick with the demos for now since I don't have any issues with them

[EWG]

I don’t like the stack height of demos. Changes the ski to me. But the weight difference is so small - weight is not a reason to change.


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