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  • sf
    Registered User
    • Dec 2008
    • 1131

    #1

    Pow-ski for the GF

    Her
    Good skier, not really that good technically, but very balanced and athletic. Surprisingly smooth. Been skiing and snowboarding all her life. 167/50 (5'6"/110), but freakishly strong and just keeps on going.
    Doesn't ski that fast, but can if I tease her. Just likes to have fun. Likes trees and soft chop over steep, open terrain. Has absolutely no interest in swapping skis at lunch etc.

    Current skis
    Allround everyday - 167 Sally Stella 106s - with atk 12s. She loves these, but would like just a tiny bit more float for the best days. And I'd like her to be on alpine bindings for inbounds. - She'll keep these
    The pow ski she never uses - 177 Nordica La ninas - with Markers. In open pow fields and on soft groomers she likes them, but they are too big and heavy for her for trees and whatnot.

    Previous skis
    176? BC Navis - several years ago. Traditional camber, stiff AF (for her), mounted way back. She actually skied them pretty well, and at the time she didn't know better. Key take-away is that she could ski that ski.
    174 Line Pandoras - had them for a year. Felt that they were a bit boring and uninspiring. Too soft and not playful.
    Think she has been on some K2s back in the days as well. And borrowed a pair of the original Line Pandoras a few years back. Really liked those - probably more modern mount?

    Summary
    Tends to like traditionaly mounted skis (but hasn't really tried many others), with a tiny bit of backbone. But at her weight that still doesn't translate to a very stiff ski.

    Candidates
    171 Salomon QST 118 - she loves the 106s, and two of her friends ski the 118, but BSL doesn't allow for demos. Her favourite, but I'm a tiny bit worried about the more progressive mount.
    172 K2 Mindbender 115 Alliance - looks promising. More traditional mount and good review on Blister.
    172 Blizzard Sheeva 11 - Also a decent review on Blister. More forgiving tha the K2, but how forgiving is that? If it's a proper womens version of the Rustler 11 it should be sturdy enough. Slighty narrower.
    171 4frnt HOJI W - dark horse. Both mount and reverse camber is probably a bit off of what she wants, but still. Not allround enough? Might not work well on groomers, probably needs to be tipped over with good technique?

    Any experiences and comparisons? Blister has a good comparison between the K2, the Sheeva and the Nordica Santa Ana (which rules out the Nordicas). Anybody able to compare any of those three to the qst 118? The Hoji W is more of a side note.

    And no, I won't be getting her Protests, BGs or any other tgr-approved ski. Protests might work out, but I didn't fall in love myself.

    And no, no nudes
    Last edited by sf; 09-17-2020, 11:26 PM.
  • mr_pretzel
    King potato
    • Feb 2011
    • 2121

    #2
    I havent skied the womens version of any of these, but I have skied the men’s skis.

    For norway that mindbender is going to be the most fun. It is the most playful of the bunch and skies great on groomers, light and easy to throw around but skies fine in chop and such.

    The sheeva would also be a good choice but I’d say it’s less playful than the mindbender if it’s anything like the rustler(the shape is the same so probably).

    I think the QST118 is the most “pow ski” of the bunch and doesnt feel as good all mtn as the others.

    Tons of females out there love hoji’s, but I think the other two options are the best choices for inbounds pow skis.

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    • SoVT Joey
      Mar-a-lago
      • Jan 2020
      • 2585

      #3
      My girl rips the atris birdie in a 172 (I think that’s the length) and loves it. And it’s not built like the guys atris. Closer to a anima and nocta cross breed.


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      • smooth operator
        Registered User
        • Jan 2014
        • 685

        #4
        The women rustler 10 is a popular choice over here. Forget what the women model is called.

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        • bigdude2468
          AF
          • Jul 2008
          • 2385

          #5
          Has absolutely no interest in swapping skis at lunch etc.

          With the above being the case why not the Moment Bella? women's specific ski that handles all conditions well and at 108 is wide enough to be considered a powder ski. Blister likes this ski a lot.

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          • danmelon
            snowboardeur
            • Jun 2014
            • 1948

            #6
            Pow-ski for the GF

            5 posts in an still no request for tiddy pics. Man what happened to this place. There are rules man.
            27° 18°

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            • kid-kapow
              Registered User
              • Oct 2017
              • 2495

              #7
              It could be that BMT122s are a bit much ski for her (perhaps a bit long and big surface area), but at 80% off aka dirt cheap they could be more than worth a shot for a dedicated pow slayer. They work well with tech bindings.



              BMT122s respond well to being driven and I assume they will be a pretty effortless transition from QSTs due to similar mount point. They can also be driven/ridden from a centered stance. They are not demanding. They are really easy to whip around and can pivot on a dime, yet stable at speed. They are better on groomers than they ought to be as long as one focuses on pressurizing the outside ski. My concern with them would be the amount of ski in front of the binding as the day progresses - so 176cm could be a bit on the long side for her, but would work fine out west where I live. Way, way more versatile than Togga Carbons imho.

              Atris Birdies are fine skis, but pretty similar to her QSTs imho - that is, I doubt they will be a significant step up in pow performance compared to Stellas. I do not think there is any difference between the male/unisex models and female models other than weight and stiffness according to sizing. Anima Birdies seem a bit excessive for her needs according to what you are describing. Noctas in 176 could work, though the more traditional mount point of BMT122s would probably be even easier to ski for her.

              Sheeva11s is also a pretty versatile model if the R11 is an indicator, so too Mindbender 115c Alliance. I am guessing you can find both S11s and M115cAs at pretty competetive prices this time of year (40-50% off 2020 models with 2021 models only having updated graphics) where both do a lot of stuff well from strong carvers to pow slayers. I am guessing both will be intuitive and strong pow skis for her based on her like of Stellas.
              Mindbender 115: https://www.finn.no/bap/webstore/ad....kode=190688853
              Sheeva11: https://www.sport-bittl.com/en/blizz...0::164689.html / sport conrad has some bundles that are pretty affordable too
              Last edited by kid-kapow; 09-14-2020, 07:58 AM.

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              • Utagonian
                Registered User
                • Dec 2010
                • 634

                #8
                I would add DPS Nina A112's to your list. Hard to beat as a resort tree-oriented ski with a very traditional mount point.

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                • N1CK.
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2904

                  #9
                  I have a 181 Volkl 108 (full rocker) which I think would be a great pow ski for a lighter/smaller person.
                  Caught it here for cheap, would let it go for same deal. Still new.

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                  • eskido
                    I love beer
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 1483

                    #10
                    Pow-ski for the GF

                    I see no TGR approved but the smaller GPO is a phenomenal women’s pow ski that certainly wouldn’t get swapped out at lunch. Super easy to ski, fun everywhere and flex matched to her preference. I think it’s 111ish?
                    Fear, Doubt, Disbelief, you have to let it all go. Free your mind!

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                    • sf
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1131

                      #11
                      Tons of good comments, thanks!

                      Re Sheeva 10s, Atris, Bellas etc.....too narrow. If getting a same width ski, just slightly longer was an option she'd probably stick with Stella 106s in 174. But by all means, especially the Atris looks good.

                      DPS and Praxis etc not really an option due to pricing. In addition GPOs never really won me over.

                      BMT 122 could be ok, but at that width and 176 it's more ski than she needs. Also slightly worried about reverse camber, even if subtle. Love my 94s and 109s though, great skis.
                      Thanks for links to the Skiconcept-sale, also found pairs for sale at a sligtly lower price locally in Oslo.

                      Comment about Sheeva 11 and Mindbender might be better as an allround-ski than QST 118 is interesting. I've had that feeling myself.

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                      • doebedoe
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 5929

                        #12
                        Originally posted by N1CK.
                        I have a 181 Volkl 108 (full rocker) which I think would be a great pow ski for a lighter/smaller person.
                        Caught it here for cheap, would let it go for same deal. Still new.
                        PM me if OP doesn't want them.

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                        • kid-kapow
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 2495

                          #13
                          my bad - I forgot to check from our friends at Braa, I see their pricing is pretty spectacular. Shit, she can probably get a pair and sell them on without much of a (if any) loss if they do not work out at that price.

                          Honestly, I think that deal will be hard to beat - both in terms of performance and bang for buck. Everybody seems to like them as a loose, yet stable and intuitive pow ski. Their sidecut and shape probably make them really versatile, and as such very suitable as an all day deeper days pow ski. I think their graphic is spectacular as well.

                          QST118s are supposedly really good pow skis, but their shape and mounting point doesn't excactly scream versatility imho. I would also assume that they need a bit of speed to really shine, though that is just pure speculation - I have not tried them.

                          Sheeva11s/R11s and Mindbender115cAs will probably be a bit more intuitive and confidence inspiring in the harder snow areas between the pow stashes as well as on groomers than qst118s or BMT122s. Sometimes predictable behaviour across a lot of conditions might be more important for some skiers than spectacular performance in one condition. I guess that is the main difference between swapping skis throughout the day and staying on one pair


                          Stellas for daily driver + M115cAlliance for deeper days should make her one happy camper. Though, I think you'd be hard pressed to go wrong with either Sheeva11s/R11s (a bit more power) and Mindbender115cAs (a bit looser).

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                          • Dromond
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 5490

                            #14
                            Everything you described screams DPS A112 or even the hybrids. I've known three female skiers that roughly fit this description who immediately bonded with the 112 resort pow skiing including trees. My wife had the Line Pandora and did not like them, but is obsessed with the 112 and does not want to ski anything else for pow.

                            I think that the K2, Blizzard and 4frnt options you mentioned are likely more aggressive and won't shine until you are going faster.

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                            • wwwllw
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 449

                              #15
                              My wife digs the short billy goats.

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