Anybody fondled the new carbon cuff Fischer travers boot?

[Climber Joe]

I’m wondering if it would be worth the upgrade. Hoping for a significant step up in stiffness with little to no added weight. Can’t find reviews or weights anywhere.

[auvgeek]

I didn't even know they update it.

Info seems hard to come by, like you said. Look sexy tho. Do want.

[mall walker]

that is really the only thing I can think about this boot that could be improved. ~150 days and 400k'+ on mine and they're still going strong, but assuming the fit is the same I'll probably bite on these...

[NorCalNomad]

I've seen at least 2 photos of the clog cracking on the last one, and I haven't been able to find out if they changed anything with the clog

[JRainey]

I tried them on at ISPO, but I couldn't compare to them to the current ones. They seemed stiffish, with decent flex range.

Talked to a shop guy here who sells the current boots and he was stoked on them, said stiffer.

[Climber Joe]

I've seen at least 2 photos of the clog cracking on the last one, and I haven't been able to find out if they changed anything with the clog

You mean the lower shell? Where exactly did it crack?

[auvgeek]

Given that nobody seems to know the weight or other details, it's probably futile to ask but...

Does anybody know if the bsl will stay the same?

[Boissal]

Still no info on weight/flex but at least we know the model name. I've emailed Fischer NA, we'll see if they have an ETA.
Looks like the existing model is also getting an upgrade.
Getting close to being on the fence about going full Skimo. These certainly are appealing...

[NorCalNomad]

Getting close to being on the fence about going full Skimo. These certainly are appealing...

If you want to dip your toe the Backland Carbon is 1kgish and there is a bunch of them in the used market. Without the tongue it uphills as good as anything but full carbon race boots, with the tongue in they ski way better than any dynafits in that weight range (certainly uphills better than the tlt6 or 7).

[Boissal]

If you want to dip your toe the Backland Carbon is 1kgish and there is a bunch of them in the used market. Without the tongue it uphills as good as anything but full carbon race boots, with the tongue in they ski way better than any dynafits in that weight range (certainly uphills better than the tlt6 or 7).

Tongue fiddling sounds pretty annoying to me. I've read that they're very narrow too. The Fischer seems to fit me right out of the box which is a miracle considering my feet are beyond deformed.

[NorCalNomad]

Tongue fiddling sounds pretty annoying to me. I've read that they're very narrow too. The Fischer seems to fit me right out of the box which is a miracle considering my feet are beyond deformed.

Naw not really on the narrow part. Plus the custom molding on the shell is da tits.

But if the shell fits your foot, get after it.

[Boissal]

Heard back from Fischer, it's definitely in the 2019/2020 lineup and will be available in NA sometime this summer/fall.
They sent me a link to the catalogue (see here), Travers models are on page 42. Unfortunately no weights or flex estimates.

I tried the 2018 non-carbon model yesterday (that's all BC had in the warehouse) and it was not encouraging. The amount of lower shell deformation when flexing forward is insane. I know a number of people who ski the carbon version and swear it skis unbelievably well and is decently stiff, especially laterally (what does that even mean?), but I have a hard time believing it. The carbon is in the sole and provides torsional rigidity, shouldn't make much of a difference in forward or lateral flex between the 2 models... The comparative AT boot flex thread has it at 95, stiffer than the La Sportiva Spectre (90) which is my current ride. Carpet flexing makes me think that everyone must have been high when rating these boots because I'd give the Fischer a 60 at best if the Spectre is 90.
I know I know, ski more centered, get out of the back seat, blah blah blah... Forward flex is pretty key when hauling ass in variable snow or getting tossed around in chunder though. Not sure about lateral flex, we're not talking about railing superG turns here.

[trogdortheburninator]

Heard back from Fischer, it's definitely in the 2019/2020 lineup and will be available in NA sometime this summer/fall.
They sent me a link to the catalogue (see here), Travers models are on page 42. Unfortunately no weights or flex estimates.

I tried the 2018 non-carbon model yesterday (that's all BC had in the warehouse) and it was not encouraging. The amount of lower shell deformation when flexing forward is insane. I know a number of people who ski the carbon version and swear it skis unbelievably well and is decently stiff, especially laterally (what does that even mean?), but I have a hard time believing it. The carbon is in the sole and provides torsional rigidity, shouldn't make much of a difference in forward or lateral flex between the 2 models... The comparative AT boot flex thread has it at 95, stiffer than the La Sportiva Spectre (90) which is my current ride. Carpet flexing makes me think that everyone must have been high when rating these boots because I'd give the Fischer a 60 at best if the Spectre is 90.
I know I know, ski more centered, get out of the back seat, blah blah blah... Forward flex is pretty key when hauling ass in variable snow or getting tossed around in chunder though. Not sure about lateral flex, we're not talking about railing superG turns here.

IMO scaffo resistance to bulging is the biggest indicator of performance in these 1-1.2 kg boots. A stiff carbon cuff on a bulging scaffo skis like crap. I think this is a big part of why the Alien RS skis so will. Stiff plastic + stiffening ribs + an antibulge metal spring.

[Boissal]

IMO scaffo resistance to bulging is the biggest indicator of performance in these 1-1.2 kg boots. A stiff carbon cuff on a bulging scaffo skis like crap. I think this is a big part of why the Alien RS skis so will. Stiff plastic + stiffening ribs + an antibulge metal spring.

I've never been in a 1-kilo boot and this was eye opening for me. I do see some lower shell deformation on my Spectre but it's pretty minor and it's mitigated by the instep buckle + the fact that it's a 1400 g boot with a lot of grilamid, not a bathroom slipper wrapped in a thin layer of carbon and plastic. On the Travers I could see both pivot points between the lower shell and the cuff bulging out significantly on every flex and the instep region opening up. I don't think the boa closure can do shit against this kind of pressure. I'd be completely gripped skiing these, I'd be waiting for a catastrophic failure on every turn (even though I'm sure the boot can take a major beating). Guess that's why they do have some progressive flex though, the whole scaffold can deform, it's definitely not the brick wall I have heard mentioned.

Again, I'm all about being more centered on my skis but there's only so much you can do when terrain comes at you fast. Other than skiing more slowly of course. With all the chatter about how much better these light boots are getting I was wondering if we had entered an era of somewhat comparable performance with the beefier model. I guess that's not the case quite yet and it makes complete sense from an engineering standpoint: can't have it all. A number of light-booted peeps have commented that they're more than happy to sacrifice some downhill performance to gain on the uphill. That's not my cup of tea. I'll probably revisit the issue in 10 years when I'm over schlepping 1800 g skis and 4-buckle boots around.

[zion zig zag]

I've never been in a 1-kilo boot and this was eye opening for me. I do see some lower shell deformation on my Spectre but it's pretty minor and it's mitigated by the instep buckle + the fact that it's a 1400 g boot with a lot of grilamid, not a bathroom slipper wrapped in a thin layer of carbon and plastic. On the Travers I could see both pivot points between the lower shell and the cuff bulging out significantly on every flex and the instep region opening up. I don't think the boa closure can do shit against this kind of pressure. I'd be completely gripped skiing these, I'd be waiting for a catastrophic failure on every turn (even though I'm sure the boot can take a major beating). Guess that's why they do have some progressive flex though, the whole scaffold can deform, it's definitely not the brick wall I have heard mentioned.

Again, I'm all about being more centered on my skis but there's only so much you can do when terrain comes at you fast. Other than skiing more slowly of course. With all the chatter about how much better these light boots are getting I was wondering if we had entered an era of somewhat comparable performance with the beefier model. I guess that's not the case quite yet and it makes complete sense from an engineering standpoint: can't have it all. A number of light-booted peeps have commented that they're more than happy to sacrifice some downhill performance to gain on the uphill. That's not my cup of tea. I'll probably revisit the issue in 10 years when I'm over schlepping 1800 g skis and 4-buckle boots around.

Ha, that's kind of my plan as well. Get lighter and lighter gear as I get older and need the extra advantage.

I tried on the Carbon Travers earlier this year and was a little disappointed after what I'd read. I had to double check that I had actually locked into ski mode. I'd still like to ski a pair with my spring setup to see just how doable it is.