Ode to the DPS Lotus 138 (and Volant Spatula)

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  • summit
    *NOT* an expert
    • Oct 2003
    • 23222

    #1

    Ode to the DPS Lotus 138 (and Volant Spatula)

    REVERSE CAMBER - REVERSE SIDECUT

    Let me tell you about a ski that has chaaaaaaaaaaaaaanged my life. (Imagine me as a street preacher waving around a fat ski).

    DPS Lotus 138. It is the shit.

    It is really the only ski anyone should be on in soft snow. Even at CO low tide. Why? Because no other ski is more forgiving on breakable crust, rock hits, and shallow snow. It lets you be super light on your feet to avoid/minimize rocks... cool for early season. But the real reason I have them is that there is no better tree ski, no better pow ski, that is also a crud ski. They also turn dust on crust to bottomless.

    Sure I rock my EHPs when I want my alpine boots and want to charge hard.

    Any other day over about 5/6" I'm on my DPS Lotus 138s, inbounds or not. They make tight trees super fun. They make crud feel like almost untracked. They ski breakable crust like pow. They let you ski longer because they take so much less input. That is why mine are mounted for touring, because you don't need an alpine boot to drive these. they require less boot than traditional ski (more boot doesn't hurt though). They open your beer and make sure your car never runs out of gas!!!

    You can be a true soul skier and rip the ski that is the disciple of McConkeys Spatula. Lotus 138. All time best ski ever period.

    Drink the koolaid yo! If I could only own two skies at all period, I'd own a DPS Lotus 138 and a something else like a Wailer 112 or Wailer 106 or something like that. 138 no question.

    I have more days on Lotus 138s than any other ski, as I've been skiing the design for 10+ years.

    But where did the Lotus 138 (and all these other skis) come from?

    SKI HISTORY - VOLANT SPATULA'S CHILDREN

    I still have my Volant Spatula 186s which I got in 2004 and skied a ton until I got my first Lotus 138s in about 2007. I still ski the Spats occasionally. They are heavy at about 15# for the pair... without bindings, (one ski weighs about as much as a pair of 138s). They are full reverse sidecut reverse camber 115-125-115 (as opposed other 138s which have a flat camber section with sidecut underfoot to hold an edge) which made the Spatulas heinous cat tracks.

    These are the instructions, or Mental Floss, Shane McConkey wrote and were included with the Spatula in 2002:

    https://www.evo.com/what-is-so-speci...i-the-spatulas

    McConkey's Spatula was the progenitor of all the fun shaped skis we have now. Every fun-shape skier should read Mental Floss. Keep in mind it was addressed to people skiing traditional side-cut/traditional camber skis 90-108mm underfoot like the Volkl Explosiv, Salomon Pocket Rocket, Volant Chubb, and Atomic Powder Plus as their pow skis. He wanted to change their thinking, but it all applies just as well today.

    All of our fun skis today are just evolved (compromised) Spatulas. They took the Spatula and compromised some design elements to make it better on hard snow. OK, losing the stainless steel top sheet was not a compromise (Lotus 138, Praxis Pow)... but every 5-point sidecut ski is the progeny of a a GS ski that had sex with the Spatula. The very first was Eric 'Hoji' Hjorleifson's 4FRNT EHP in fall 2005. Drake's DPS Wailer 112RP was the first widespread 5point design success in spring 2010 following the lesser appreciated fall 2009 release of JP Auclair's Aramada JJ. These were mainstreamed (copied) by the extremely successful Salomon Super 7 in 2011. Now every brand has something like that.

    The true natural snow only tool remains a Lotus 138.

    @hutash @adimmen @blurred @marshalolson @evile
    Last edited by summit; 02-14-2018, 06:53 PM.
    Originally posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.
  • El Chupacabra
    pillowpants
    • Sep 2004
    • 21899

    #2
    Hallelujah, amen, preach the gospel of the 138.

    They are simply the best in untracked.


    In tracked out chop, the width gets to me after awhile. Also, if there's a lot of groomer between the pow, they're far from ideal.

    I picked up some Blizzard Spurs earlier this year in the hopes of something a tiny bit more versatile. I wanted something usable at a ski area where it's a PITA to go back to the car and switch skis. Since this season sucks, haven't had a chance to ski them in anything deserving of a big ski.
    Originally posted by powder11
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    • Leavenworth Skier
      Registered User
      • Aug 2011
      • 8155

      #3
      Have you guys skied the BillyGoat? I thought the lotus 138 was it (for resort pow) until I got on the BillyGoat.

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      • Summit
        *NOT* an expert
        • Oct 2003
        • 23222

        #4
        Originally posted by Leavenworth Skier
        Have you guys skied the BillyGoat? I thought the lotus 138 was it (for resort pow) until I got on the BillyGoat.
        Another 5-point fun shape... Spatula had sex with a GS ski. I have DPS Wailer 112s and 4FRNT EHPs.
        Originally posted by blurred
        skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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        • PlayItLeo
          ChairmanofthePowderBoards
          • Jan 2013
          • 2393

          #5
          Preach. Reverse reverse is the fucking sex and are way more than just deep pow skis. They just make skiing more funner than it already is.


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          • MakersTeleMark
            ~~~(oYo)~~~
            • Feb 2005
            • 19863

            #6
            When did the Moment Deathwish come out, because that is the 1 ski for me?

            I've got fatter, but not mo better.
            Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
            This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
            Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague

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            • 2FUNKY
              Registered User
              • Nov 2006
              • 10556

              #7
              Originally posted by Summit
              Look another 5 point ski!

              REVERSE-REVERSE ALL HAIL!
              Spatula
              Lotus 138
              Praxis Pow
              Armada ARG

              There are no others like them.
              ProTest!

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              • Summit
                *NOT* an expert
                • Oct 2003
                • 23222

                #8
                I actually started writing to tell Hutash tips on skiing reverse-reverse... so I started with Mental Floss and it turned into a love letter to 138s and a history lesson to the Spats... and too long for a PM... so I made a post of one of the gospels of reverse-reverse.

                Reverse Reverse Tips:
                Read mental floss
                You can go sideways at any time and it doesn't mean stopping (unless you want)
                You can push your tips to faceshot, porpoise
                You don't have to get aggro forward, but you can
                Stay out of the backseat (and you don't have fear the chop/breakable) just try it... get center.... now a little forward... YESSSS
                Loosey goosey... little moves... think and the ski will read your mind! Force it and it will move in ways you didn't think possible
                Wax is important on reverse reverse, although mostly for covering a groomer on your way.
                On a fully lift served day where shit tracks out, I might switch out to a 5 point fun shape about mid day... unless mid day turns in to hiking/sidestepping for more lightly tracked stuff
                Don't be afraid to take them out on a 5" day... they turn dust on crust into surfing
                Once you learn them, go find some trees you thought were tight... YESSSSS
                Originally posted by blurred
                skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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                • Lantern
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 56

                  #9
                  Bought a pair of 138 hybrids a few years ago and skied them as my main pow ski and only touring setup for 1 season. Probably 50 days on them.

                  Absolutely best ski for any kind of 3D snow. Even deep heavy wet spring snow that normally locks you in to a turn is super easy and fun. Just such a fucking bear on icy luge exits, hard groomers or long traverses.

                  Ended up grabbing another pair of Renegades for the next year. Rens just have that combination of L138 ability to make any turn shape in pow and are much more manageable on hardpack. Would love to remount the 138s with a tech binding and put them back in rotation though.

                  Everyone that considers themselves a ski nerd should spend some time on a R/R ski. I’ll never sell mine... unless someone has a 202 I can try...



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                  • Sirshredalot
                    Ski nerd
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 6250

                    #10
                    I still miss my Spats.

                    What's the best damp reverse reverse shape on the market now? The 138s are done, right?

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                    • 2FUNKY
                      Registered User
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 10556

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sirshredalot
                      I still miss my Spats.

                      What's the best damp reverse reverse shape on the market now? The 138s are done, right?
                      ProTest.

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                      • Evil E
                        Registered Father
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 2028

                        #12
                        Reverse reverse? Hmmm. Blurred had told me to try spats a few times.


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                        • Summit
                          *NOT* an expert
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 23222

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Evil E
                          Reverse reverse? Hmmm. Blurred had told me to try spats a few times.


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                          I still remember watching you effortlessly slaying something in East Vail in 2004 and looking over at Blurred and he goes "we need a pair of those Spatulas." He found us an end of season deal on them (they were discontinued).
                          Originally posted by blurred
                          skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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                          • Evil E
                            Registered Father
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 2028

                            #14
                            Still the best pure pow ski of all time in my opinion. DPS made it lighter, but I like the heft of it. It crushes. The DPS gets bucked easily if it’s not perfect snow. The spatula gives zero fucks and just keeps destroying. Those days in east Vail were good times!


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                            • pfluffenmeister
                              lusty gear whore
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 7471

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lantern
                              Everyone that considers themselves a ski nerd should spend some time on a R/R ski. I’ll never sell mine... unless someone has a 202 I can try...
                              Love my 202s.
                              For R/R longer is better.

                              Although I have done the surprise splits on the cat track back to the lift.
                              In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

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