Kingpin charging

[Huskier]

Riding into the season on non-super 189 BG's, picked explicitly for their crud-charging prowess.
To simplify life (and to add some 'bling', as the kids say) I picked up a pair of Kingpins for a song on Snowinn (yes it's a sketch site, yes they only ran me $370)
I have a pair of Dyna Radicals sitting in my basement waiting for a rainy day, which I consciously passed on mounting, wary of their release properties. Specifically, forward release has me sketched. I understand Kingpins address this issue, but are no replacement for a frame binding a la Duke.

Am I an idiot? Should I swallow my pride and pick up a pair of used Dukes from my retarded cousin, Beelo? Or risk life & limb for the sake of vanity?

Beta on charging on Kingpin 10's without either double ejecting or breaking yourself?

[XXX-er]

Angle Parking is a crazy fucker and he has been skiing pretty hard on King pins cranked to 11, I got another bud who is +220 6'5" and they are both using them as their only ski ... seem pretty happy

of course it depends on how hard you ski?

[adrenalated]

If you're OK with the charging ability of a DIN 10 binding and AT boots inbounds, then Kingpins are probably fine.

That said I personally would not mount a Kingpin on a 189 BG, mostly because I'd rather ski real alpine boots and bindings inbounds and I'd rather tour on something lighter.

[skibrd]

I put Kingpins on 193 Shiros for touring with no issues. I am switching to CAST cause my knees have been aching.

[TheWetNoodle]

I was going to put a kingpin on a pair of 4frnt kye 110 (188cm) but I decided to put cast on them instead because I’m young, dumb, and like my pivots.

I feel like the kingpin is one of the best pin bindings to charge on but it’ll never be as good as an alpine binding.


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[tenB]

Most of my experience is on pivots and sally sth and sth2, but I have a dozen days on kingpin 13s. I also have a new pair of 189 goats, and I would definitely not run the kingpins on them. The goats are pretty heavy to tour on and are under-gunned on variable snow with kingpins on them.

The kingpins are probably the best skiing of the tech bindings but that toe definitely feels rigid and nowhere near as solid as a good alpine binding. The toe has zero lateral release other than the boot shearing out of the pins.

[Huskier]

Alright, alright, you've convinced me.

Thinking Dynaduke plates vs Quiver Killer: Frame binding for in-bounds stupidity, Radicals for sidecountry meadowskipping, and my trusty beat-up backcountry's get a shiny pair of golden bindings... In other news, anyone holding large post-EPF dukes?

[BrokeSomeRibs]

To simplify life (and to add some 'bling', as the kids say) I picked up a pair of Kingpins for a song on Snowinn (yes it's a sketch site, yes they only ran me $370)

Snowinn isn't sketch at all. They're a huge Euro distributor. Their prices are so good cause the Euro is in the toilet right now against the dollar. I don't have any good advice for you though. I'll leave that to smarter mags.

[eskido]

I feel like the kingpin is one of the best pin bindings to charge on but it’ll never be as good as an alpine binding.


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Boom

[DropCliffsNotBombs]

Pin bindings should not be used for daily resort charging.
"Wrong tool for the job", really.

[Dirty.Harry.]

Can the Kingpins do well on your BGs? Yep.

Will the Kingpins work for everyday resort charging? Sure.

Will they break after a season or three doing that? Maybe. There are plenty of examples pointing in either direction.

Will they feel as nice on hardback as a set of Pivots or something similar? Nope.

It’s all about personal risk assessment.


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[roQer]

Will they fuck up your knee or tib/fib if you run out of luck? Hell yeah.

[Huskier]

Will they fuck up your knee or tib/fib if you run out of luck? Hell yeah.

Personal experience?

[XXX-er]

I think whether you will break AT bindings at a hill depends on the prevailing type of snow conditions, up at the local hill I still see a lot of people still skiing Ramers/ Titanal 2 / 3 / all versions of FR+/ naxo and all the tech bindings BUT the snow is usually pretty soft

[roQer]

Thanks god no. Had a nice tumble with a Beast, though. The skis stayed all the way down on. Dumb luck nothing happened. Since then I‘m shifting one gear down when not on an alpine binding. Now I’m on the Kingpins for touring and trust the rigid toe even less.