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  • Muggydude
    Registered User
    • Apr 2014
    • 2867

    #1

    2017 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

    I figured it was about time to start a new thread for this upcoming season, seeing as the custom orders are being fulfilled as we speak and should be shipping to some soon. Last update I had from Keith indicated my Quixotes and Protests should be shipping in the next week or two.

    Custom skis handmade in the Sierra Nevada by skiers, for skiers. Praxis skiercrafted skis are sold factory direct offering a better value and buying experience.


    Post in this thread for general stoke, questions, mounting information, and reviews for Praxis Skis.

    If you're a new Praxis purchaser, you can get a referral link from from members on here to create your account and get 15% off your first order. Win-win for everyone. Myself or other members will gladly send a link for the code if you private message us on here.

    Below are past Praxis Threads with tons of great info in them. Also check out Praxis' Facebook page for more ski pics (check out the Veneer Graphics Album). As always, email Keith (owner of Praxis' skis) for advice on which ski/core/flex/veneer, graphics might work for you (can find his email on the website).

    2013-Praxis-Skis

    2014-Praxis-Skis-review-mounting-resource-guide

    The-2015-Praxis-skis-info-and-reviews-thread

    2016-PRAXIS-info-mounting-and-resource-guide
    Last edited by Muggydude; 07-21-2017, 10:12 AM.
  • Muggydude
    Registered User
    • Apr 2014
    • 2867

    #2
    Further Reading:


    Praxis-Carbon-Layups-Yay-or-Nay-for-Resort

    Praxis-Skis-Topsheet-and-Base-Graphic-Picture-Thread


    Specific Ski Threads:

    Praxis-Protest-just-how-cool-is-it

    The-Official-Great-Pacific-Octopus-Thread

    Praxis-MVP

    Wootest and Wootest 2.0

    Praxis-Quixote-Jumped-the-Shark-or-Legit

    Praxis-Ullr

    Praxis-Rx

    Official-Jigarex-thread

    PSA-Mount-your-own-fucking-skis

    A-Video-TR-How-to-Bend-Brakes

    Praxis-Freeride-mounting-point

    Mounting-Point-Praxis-Powder-Boards


    Random Chatter:

    Building-a-Ski-Boot-Press

    *Current*-Lotus-138-compared-to-the-*current*-Praxis-Powder-Board?

    Praxis-Carving-Skis

    Has-anyone-skied-Praxis-Concepts-with-NTNs
    Last edited by Muggydude; 08-24-2017, 09:48 AM.

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    • Muggydude
      Registered User
      • Apr 2014
      • 2867

      #3
      Reviews:

      Blister Reviews Praxis Protest

      Praxis-Concept-Review

      Praxis-Concept-177-Mini-Review-A-comment-on-length-for-EC-terrain

      Praxis-Piste-Jib-Reviews

      Praxis-9D8-review
      Last edited by Muggydude; 07-21-2017, 10:11 AM.

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      • Shu Shu
        Registered User
        • Feb 2008
        • 786

        #4
        Muggy thanks for pulling this all together. Great history and knowledge here.

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        • east or bust
          Registered User
          • Aug 2013
          • 6751

          #5
          Very nice collection up there ^ can't wait for my PJs

          Only thing I would add is I heard Rontele has codes for 30% percent off, PMs still apply

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          • grinch
            stole the who hash
            • Sep 2009
            • 16652

            #6
            Originally posted by east or bust
            Very nice collection up there ^ can't wait for my PJs

            Only thing I would add is I heard Rontele has codes for 30% percent off, PMs still apply
            Haa, 3D referral chess.I think you might have just given muggy a stroke.

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            • neck beard
              Type 7 stool
              • May 2007
              • 5732

              #7
              Originally posted by flowing alpy
              Praxis Rx
              Fuck I laughed.
              Life is not lift served.

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              • eskido
                I love beer
                • Aug 2005
                • 1483

                #8
                Holeeeey shit that's one hell of a resource, good on ya mug! Oddly somewhat ok with not being able expand the quiver this season with my almost new Q's looking all sexy and randy, staring at me every time I walk in the garage. This is always one of my favorite threads, so I will be very happily following along as usual.... shit, now I already want a new pair. Fuckin Praxis, like a god damn tattoo, soon as you get a good one you immediately want another one. Keith puts heroin in those fuckers I swear.
                Concept
                Fear, Doubt, Disbelief, you have to let it all go. Free your mind!

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                • mbillie1
                  mere citizen
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 5965

                  #9
                  Anyone have any insight into how to determine the approximate weight of a custom build? Contact Keith?

                  Also what is the difference between "ultralight w/carbon" and "enduro w/carbon" ?

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                  • Muggydude
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 2867

                    #10
                    2017 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

                    I know for the larger powder skis going to the heavy core adds about a lb or so. Easiest way is to look at the stock ski weights, then add/subtract weight for core, carbon, flex. Adding carbon subtracts about 4-5 oz, veneer subtracts about 4-8 oz per pair.

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                    • adrenalated
                      average gaper
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 8431

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mbillie1
                      Also what is the difference between "ultralight w/carbon" and "enduro w/carbon" ?
                      Different cores. Both use a mix of Paulownia, Maple, and Ash but the UL has much more of the former and less of the heavier woods. I don't recall exactly what the weight savings on the UL is but it is significant, at the expense of dampness.

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                      • grinch
                        stole the who hash
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 16652

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mbillie1
                        Anyone have any insight into how to determine the approximate weight of a custom build? Contact Keith?

                        Also what is the difference between "ultralight w/carbon" and "enduro w/carbon" ?
                        For reference my 182 gpo ul carbons weigh 8.1lbs and my map(enduro)core non carbon 182 gpo's weigh 8.6lbs. Neither have veneer

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                        • mbillie1
                          mere citizen
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 5965

                          #13
                          Originally posted by grinch
                          For reference my 182 gpo ul carbons weigh 8.1lbs and my map(enduro)core non carbon 182 gpo's weigh 8.6lbs. Neither have veneer
                          Interesting. What flex, if you don't mind my asking?

                          For what it's worth I am considering a 182 UL flex 3 GPO w/the most weight-saving veneer and hoping it'll be sub 4 lbs a ski, sounds like it'll be alright, but if say the 187 or the 4 flex added negligible weight I'd be keen on that too... I just know realistically about 1800g is as much as I'm gonna tolerate for a purely touring ski, even on deep days, so I am looking for the breakdown I guess lol.

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                          • grinch
                            stole the who hash
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 16652

                            #14
                            2017 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

                            Originally posted by mbillie1
                            Interesting. What flex, if you don't mind my asking?

                            For what it's worth I am considering a 182 UL flex 3 GPO w/the most weight-saving veneer and hoping it'll be sub 4 lbs a ski, sounds like it'll be alright, but if say the 187 or the 4 flex added negligible weight I'd be keen on that too... I just know realistically about 1800g is as much as I'm gonna tolerate for a purely touring ski, even on deep days, so I am looking for the breakdown I guess lol.
                            You might be a touch over 8lbs in a 4 flex. Mine are 4 flex. I actually have less trouble with the touring ski in a 4 than my on hill enduro core. If I have a lazy day or am tired or sore and I get back on my tails on the hill and they spank me pretty quick. Bit of power in the 4 flex tails combined with the hill base seems like less room for error. They like to be driven. The ul in thebackcountry in a 4 flex are relatively easy going . Really don't like the ul's on the hill though, especially in spring if there is refrozen underneath they get tossed. As a dedicated touring ski I like the ul 4. Veneer does add dampness also. Im having a brain fart too, someone bought supre chickens veneer ul's in a 187 and I'd guess that'd be a 4 flex. I think it was "riff".Chicken probably knows the weight and riff probably has some good beta on their skiability(exact ski your looking at). Maybe they'll see this and chime in

                            Edited: riff has veneer 187 ul gpo 4 flex
                            Last edited by grinch; 07-24-2017, 12:20 AM.

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                            • I've seen black diamonds!
                              ____________________
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 8495

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mbillie1
                              Interesting. What flex, if you don't mind my asking?

                              For what it's worth I am considering a 182 UL flex 3 GPO w/the most weight-saving veneer and hoping it'll be sub 4 lbs a ski, sounds like it'll be alright, but if say the 187 or the 4 flex added negligible weight I'd be keen on that too... I just know realistically about 1800g is as much as I'm gonna tolerate for a purely touring ski, even on deep days, so I am looking for the breakdown I guess lol.
                              I have 182 FLex 3 UL GPO's. Regular topsheet. 4.0 lbs. Wonderful skis. So easy. So competent.

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