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  • snoboy
    Registered User
    • Dec 2005
    • 1522

    #1

    The new -2017- CAST touring system thread

    I have been following the original CAST threads for a bit now and considering a setup for my new gear next winter. It seemed like it might be an ideal solution for my needs... then a pair of STH2 CAST plates came up on my local buy and sell board and I almost pulled the pin - wait, what's going on, they're not making them anymore, no parts available, hrrmmm ???

    Now I have seen the Instagram teaser for their new design, and I am more excited. It seems different enough that we should start a new thread, so here goes, let's see if this gets any traction!

    I like what I see in that teaser, my only question is that it appears that there is no positive mechanism to lock the alpine toe into place. No problem while skiing, but what happens if you drop a ski? What keeps the toe piece from falling off? It sounds from their website that there is some sort of lock, perhaps it's just not in that prototype.

    Would also love to know if there are plans for bindings other than Look/Rossi?

    Features as listed at their website home page as of today:

    -The heel piece has integrated climbing bails at 8 and 12.5 degrees with a flat mode.
    -A step down, auto-lock brake retainer for tour mode, activated using a single switch.
    -Both the tech toe and the alpine pivot toe auto-lock onto four shoulder bolts. The tech toe has a secondary lock mechanism when stepped into with a boot. This secondary lock creates zero play and reduces stress on the primary lock while touring, increasing hardware longevity.
    -The tech and alpine toes are released with a low profile slider switch.
    -All of the performance and safety of the LOOK Pivot bindings. We offer both an alpine ISO 5355 standard AFD and a WTR AFD that are easily interchanged without tools using a quick clip mechanism.
    -Ski crampon clip integrated into the tech toe.
    [edit]adding "Pivot Freetour" to make it easier to search[/edit]
    Last edited by snoboy; 04-14-2017, 03:56 PM. Reason: added the true original thread to the links
  • 1000-oaks
    ISO Shrubbery
    • Dec 2004
    • 6770

    #2
    There's a semi-sphere (or possibly a detent ball) stamped into the baseplate that's captured by the little spring-loaded slider in the back-center of the tech toe, which holds the toe in place then there isn't a boot in the binding.

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    • Tye 1on
      truckin'
      • Dec 2006
      • 13946

      #3
      From the bar rumors I've heard the Look/Rossi will be the only binding.
      Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
      And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
      It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
      and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.

      Patterson Hood of the DBT's

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      • snoboy
        Registered User
        • Dec 2005
        • 1522

        #4
        1000-oaks: I see the ball, and I see the slider on the tech toe, I'm not seeing the equivalent on the alpine toe though. I am sure there must be something as it seems like an obvious requirement and is listed in the features, just not apparent in the Instagram video.

        Originally posted by Tye 1on
        From the bar rumors I've heard the Look/Rossi will be the only binding.
        Not the worst news ever!

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        • skibrd
          Registered User
          • Aug 2014
          • 3444

          #5
          Originally posted by Tye 1on
          From the bar rumors I've heard the Look/Rossi will be the only binding.
          For now...

          Also no plans for a separate plate to remove the heel pieces. I asked and Lars' logic is sound, do you really want to figure out how to carry them in your backpack, on top of the toe pieces, avid gear and touring gear? It's simpler.

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          • Tye 1on
            truckin'
            • Dec 2006
            • 13946

            #6
            Originally posted by skibrd
            For now...
            a better answer, thanks.
            Get the L/R system fully dialed before adding more options...
            Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
            And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
            It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
            and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.

            Patterson Hood of the DBT's

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            • skibrd
              Registered User
              • Aug 2014
              • 3444

              #7
              Originally posted by Tye 1on
              a better answer, thanks.
              Get the L/R system fully dialed before adding more options...
              Yep. The new system is also much lighter then the first. For me I think it's going to come down to if I want to carry the weight penalty of CAST verse the possibility of messing my knees up with a pin binding. I have an ultra light set up for long missions, but it scares the shit out of me on the down. My knees hurt, my hips are grumpy, and I am not nearly as confident of a skier. If Lars has gotten the weight down, and with the addition of the light 130 flex boots with tech toes, I'm starting to consider CAST 2.0 as my only touring set up. No more Kingpins, no more Dynafits, one set up to rule them all.

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              • Island Bay
                Sea Dweller
                • Feb 2011
                • 1211

                #8
                Paging those with insider knowledge: any idea of total cost?

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                • skibrd
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 3444

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Island Bay
                  Paging those with insider knowledge: any idea of total cost?
                  Pre-sale is going up soon, won't know until then

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                  • jvskinn
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 205

                    #10
                    If this is less prone to icing, meaning less fiddling with it during transitions then this will be awesome.

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                    • HukuTa_KydecHuk
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 423

                      #11
                      pre-order for the new system opened on the website

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                      • mtnwriter
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 3230

                        #12
                        In!

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                        • Kopi_Red
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 2027

                          #13
                          Any idea on the price?

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                          • Judo Chop!
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 926

                            #14
                            Tried but it didn't work. Maybe because I'm using a canadian creditcard??

                            EDIT: tried a different computer and it worked with the same card. weird.
                            Last edited by Judo Chop!; 04-10-2017, 11:48 AM.

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                            • j0z77
                              Registered User
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 72

                              #15
                              Are these able to use with BF inserts?

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