Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD aka Hawk Extended aka HawX

[LeeLau]

Atomic Hawk Ultra XTD aka Hawk Extended aka HawX

I'll throw up the stuff I got from Atomic here. Going to be away skiing next week and not going to get the boot for another couple of weeks but put the questions here and I'll poke around for answers

Doesn't look like you can stick full rubber soles on it per Summit's question









Wildsnow link here

https://www.wildsnow.com/21401/atomic-hawx-frreeride-touring-gear-new/

[Judo Chop!]

Atomic Hawk 130 flex touring boot - for 2017 - 8

Bootfitter told me to get these. Looks like a gooder!

My Vulcans are falling apart. Anyone going to SIA try to hook me up an early pair of 29's please! Hahah.

[Rob Stokes]

Lee you are too light to test those, grab me a 25 and I'll give them a good flex

[adrenalated]

I haven't followed the Backland info closely. Sounds like this liner is similar... what's it like? Comparison to Intuition?

Quite interested in the general last shape and fit.

[2FUNKY]

If it has the same last and fit as my Hawx130 Alpine boot I'll be looking hard at this boot.

[nyskirat]

Thread here with the designer for Q&A http://www.newschoolers.com/forum/th...Hawx-Ultra-XTD

[auvgeek]

Any idea on what the sizing run will be? Will any or all models go down to true 22 like the Backland?

[Sessiøn]

Thread here with the designer for Q&A http://www.newschoolers.com/forum/th...Hawx-Ultra-XTD

Dude is super active on Newschoolers. A must follow if you are interested in Atomic boots. Also just really helpful in general.

[auvgeek]

Any idea on what the sizing run will be? Will any or all models go down to true 22 like the Backland?

From that thread on newschoolers:

Sizing for men= 24/24.5 - 29/29.5
Sizing for women = 22/22.5 - 27/27.5
True shell sizes and liners on all sizes

For the US, 130 = 799$, 120/110W = 699$, 100/90W = 599$

[nyskirat]

Dude is super active on Newschoolers. A must follow if you are interested in Atomic boots. Also just really helpful in general.

Seriously. Dude is one of the best members on that site for gear discussions or questions.

I heard about these boots a month or two ago and if I hadn't needed a new pair of touring boots this season I would have gone with these.

The walkmode is bomber (and easily fixable), RoM looks amazing, and the heat moldable shell should fix soooo many issues.

[LeeLau]

Holy crap. That guy is good. Awesome info. Matthew Manser from Austria fyi.

Judo and Rob they only have them in sz 27 right now as a limited ryn

[LeeLau]

Bump for Timberridge

Noram rep tells me that they would prefer to call it the Hawk EXTENDED. Unfortunate connotation for XTD when said a bit too quickly perhaps.

Got some boots and a PK and will put up pics and some weights for gearnerds when removing the forefoot buckle and replacing stock liner with Protour liner

Placeholder for pics




1445g actual in sz 27.5 (bsl 314mm) - was quoted at 1420g in PR for sz 26.5 so it's pretty close to being accurate. 10mm +/- for every size up down. 99m last in the 27.5 size. Sized 27.5 Backland and same for with Hawk Extended. I'm 27.5 Dynafit Khion/Vulcan./Beast/TLT5 and 6/Titan/ZZeus. Also 27.5 for all Scarpas. Sz 26 in Tecnica and Salomon.



Liner is 292g. ProTours are 220g so that's 72g weight right there if necessary



Just to be complete - shell without liner is 1147g. Forefoot buckle is removeable and I will weight that in a bit and leave this as a placeholder.

So boot with ProTour liner in sz 27.5 and Powerstraps would be 1373g

Boot with ProTour without forefoot buckle and Powerstraps = ???

[summit]

I did ski these a bit and I even went out for about 2 hours with a Vulcan on one foot and a Hawx 130 XTD on the other.

Flex a little nicer than a vulcan, like a two piece should.
Slightly stiffer than a Vulcan with NO tongue.
Actually, they ski pretty similar to a Vulcan with No tongue... slight edge to the Atomic.

Hawx stiffness easily the equal of any other "130" tour boot out there (Lange Freetour 130) and stiffer than some like Scott's new 130 boot, except the Hawx 130 is lighter than the equal or softer competition.

Vulcans with Tongue are stiffer.

Walk as well as a Vulcan with NO tongue, way better than a Vulcan with tongue.
About 11x easier/faster to buckle/mode transition than a Vulcan.... way less fiddle factor. Almost would buy them to replaces the Vulcs for that alone.

Atomic has a winner here I think.

Other notes: the prod model will have a thicker tongue than the liner that they had (good thing as the thin tongue liner had me at full clicks on the cuff buckles). Also, I had heel lift with everything stock, but when I threw in my own footbeds, heel lift went away... nice. I'm frustratingly between sizes... pretty close to a 2 finger fit in the 26.5 and maybe less than a 1/2 finger fit in the 25.5... I like 1-1.5 on a multipurpose boot like this...

PS... HawX not HawK you should edit your OP post title in advanced so that this thread will get picked up by search

[summit]

If it has the same last and fit as my Hawx130 Alpine boot I'll be looking hard at this boot.

it does

[auvgeek]

Thanks for the first impressions!!

How is the heel hold compared to the Vulcan while touring? That's the only thing really keeping me in that boot. Was your heel lift in the 26 or 25? What size Vulcan do you wear?