Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD aka Hawk Extended aka HawX

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  • LeeLau
    Registered User
    • Feb 2005
    • 14444

    #1

    Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD aka Hawk Extended aka HawX

    Atomic Hawk Ultra XTD aka Hawk Extended aka HawX

    I'll throw up the stuff I got from Atomic here. Going to be away skiing next week and not going to get the boot for another couple of weeks but put the questions here and I'll poke around for answers

    Doesn't look like you can stick full rubber soles on it per Summit's question

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    Wildsnow link here

    Last edited by LeeLau; 02-21-2017, 05:01 PM.
  • Judo Chop!
    Registered User
    • Mar 2011
    • 926

    #2
    Atomic Hawk 130 flex touring boot - for 2017 - 8

    Bootfitter told me to get these. Looks like a gooder!

    My Vulcans are falling apart. Anyone going to SIA try to hook me up an early pair of 29's please! Hahah.

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    • rob stokes
      Registered User
      • Mar 2006
      • 1537

      #3
      Lee you are too light to test those, grab me a 25 and I'll give them a good flex

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      • adrenalated
        average gaper
        • Dec 2006
        • 8431

        #4
        I haven't followed the Backland info closely. Sounds like this liner is similar... what's it like? Comparison to Intuition?

        Quite interested in the general last shape and fit.

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        • 2FUNKY
          Registered User
          • Nov 2006
          • 10597

          #5
          If it has the same last and fit as my Hawx130 Alpine boot I'll be looking hard at this boot.

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          • nyskirat
            Registered User
            • Jun 2011
            • 6206

            #6
            Thread here with the designer for Q&A http://www.newschoolers.com/forum/th...Hawx-Ultra-XTD
            For Sale:


            If you're in the Northeast and would like to borrow some Jigarex Plates I have:

            Rossi/Look plates
            Salomon Warden 13 plates
            Marker Kingpin Plates

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            • auvgeek
              Registered User
              • Sep 2010
              • 5630

              #7
              Any idea on what the sizing run will be? Will any or all models go down to true 22 like the Backland?
              "Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers

              photos

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              • PhiberAwptik
                Junkshot
                • Dec 2009
                • 2751

                #8
                Originally posted by nyskirat
                Thread here with the designer for Q&A http://www.newschoolers.com/forum/th...Hawx-Ultra-XTD
                Dude is super active on Newschoolers. A must follow if you are interested in Atomic boots. Also just really helpful in general.
                Training for Alpental

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                • auvgeek
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 5630

                  #9
                  Originally posted by auvgeek
                  Any idea on what the sizing run will be? Will any or all models go down to true 22 like the Backland?
                  From that thread on newschoolers:

                  Originally posted by onenerdykid
                  Sizing for men= 24/24.5 - 29/29.5
                  Sizing for women = 22/22.5 - 27/27.5
                  True shell sizes and liners on all sizes

                  For the US, 130 = 799$, 120/110W = 699$, 100/90W = 599$
                  "Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers

                  photos

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                  • nyskirat
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 6206

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PhiberAwptik
                    Dude is super active on Newschoolers. A must follow if you are interested in Atomic boots. Also just really helpful in general.
                    Seriously. Dude is one of the best members on that site for gear discussions or questions.

                    I heard about these boots a month or two ago and if I hadn't needed a new pair of touring boots this season I would have gone with these.

                    The walkmode is bomber (and easily fixable), RoM looks amazing, and the heat moldable shell should fix soooo many issues.
                    For Sale:


                    If you're in the Northeast and would like to borrow some Jigarex Plates I have:

                    Rossi/Look plates
                    Salomon Warden 13 plates
                    Marker Kingpin Plates

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                    • LeeLau
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 14444

                      #11
                      Holy crap. That guy is good. Awesome info. Matthew Manser from Austria fyi.

                      Judo and Rob they only have them in sz 27 right now as a limited ryn

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                      • LeeLau
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 14444

                        #12
                        Bump for Timberridge

                        Noram rep tells me that they would prefer to call it the Hawk EXTENDED. Unfortunate connotation for XTD when said a bit too quickly perhaps.

                        Got some boots and a PK and will put up pics and some weights for gearnerds when removing the forefoot buckle and replacing stock liner with Protour liner

                        Placeholder for pics




                        1445g actual in sz 27.5 (bsl 314mm) - was quoted at 1420g in PR for sz 26.5 so it's pretty close to being accurate. 10mm +/- for every size up down. 99m last in the 27.5 size. Sized 27.5 Backland and same for with Hawk Extended. I'm 27.5 Dynafit Khion/Vulcan./Beast/TLT5 and 6/Titan/ZZeus. Also 27.5 for all Scarpas. Sz 26 in Tecnica and Salomon.



                        Liner is 292g. ProTours are 220g so that's 72g weight right there if necessary



                        Just to be complete - shell without liner is 1147g. Forefoot buckle is removeable and I will weight that in a bit and leave this as a placeholder.

                        So boot with ProTour liner in sz 27.5 and Powerstraps would be 1373g

                        Boot with ProTour without forefoot buckle and Powerstraps = ???
                        Last edited by LeeLau; 02-21-2017, 04:53 PM.

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                        • Summit
                          *NOT* an expert
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 23257

                          #13
                          I did ski these a bit and I even went out for about 2 hours with a Vulcan on one foot and a Hawx 130 XTD on the other.

                          Flex a little nicer than a vulcan, like a two piece should.
                          Slightly stiffer than a Vulcan with NO tongue.
                          Actually, they ski pretty similar to a Vulcan with No tongue... slight edge to the Atomic.

                          Hawx stiffness easily the equal of any other "130" tour boot out there (Lange Freetour 130) and stiffer than some like Scott's new 130 boot, except the Hawx 130 is lighter than the equal or softer competition.

                          Vulcans with Tongue are stiffer.

                          Walk as well as a Vulcan with NO tongue, way better than a Vulcan with tongue.
                          About 11x easier/faster to buckle/mode transition than a Vulcan.... way less fiddle factor. Almost would buy them to replaces the Vulcs for that alone.

                          Atomic has a winner here I think.

                          Other notes: the prod model will have a thicker tongue than the liner that they had (good thing as the thin tongue liner had me at full clicks on the cuff buckles). Also, I had heel lift with everything stock, but when I threw in my own footbeds, heel lift went away... nice. I'm frustratingly between sizes... pretty close to a 2 finger fit in the 26.5 and maybe less than a 1/2 finger fit in the 25.5... I like 1-1.5 on a multipurpose boot like this...

                          PS... HawX not HawK you should edit your OP post title in advanced so that this thread will get picked up by search
                          Last edited by summit; 02-21-2017, 04:06 PM.
                          Originally posted by blurred
                          skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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                          • Summit
                            *NOT* an expert
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 23257

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 2FUNKY
                            If it has the same last and fit as my Hawx130 Alpine boot I'll be looking hard at this boot.
                            it does
                            Originally posted by blurred
                            skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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                            • auvgeek
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 5630

                              #15
                              Thanks for the first impressions!!

                              How is the heel hold compared to the Vulcan while touring? That's the only thing really keeping me in that boot. Was your heel lift in the 26 or 25? What size Vulcan do you wear?
                              "Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers

                              photos

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