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[californiagrown]

Gonna need to replace the Cooper ATWs on my 4runner before next winter. It was a pretty perfect tire for my needs in the PNW with mostly dry roads until you get up to pass level... where it could be about as bad as it gets. And they performed far better than could be expected from a non-winter only tire. But, alas, Cooper has discontinued the ATW because of premature wear issues (likely the reason for such good winter performance) even though they have lasted the full 50k for me and my light foot. Gonna run them all summer and swap them out in the fall.

My commute to work is 7 miles RT, so i can afford to place a large emphasis on winter driving, but full on snows are not an option at this time. Also do a fair amount of summer road tripping and fire/logging road driving. What have folks been happy with lately for a winter oriented AT tire?

[Flippo]

I don't know how they compare to others models but I like the BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 that I have on my Frontier. You can find them discounted few times a year at Costco. This is the main reason I got their membership card (my love for the Lagavulin 16 is the other^^).

Gonna need to replace the Cooper ATWs on my 4runner before next winter. It was a pretty perfect tire for my needs in the PNW with mostly dry roads until you get up to pass level... where it could be about as bad as it gets. And they performed far better than could be expected from a non-winter only tire. But, alas, Cooper has discontinued the ATW because of premature wear issues (likely the reason for such good winter performance) even though they have lasted the full 50k for me and my light foot. Gonna run them all summer and swap them out in the fall.

My commute to work is 7 miles RT, so i can afford to place a large emphasis on winter driving, but full on snows are not an option at this time. Also do a fair amount of summer road tripping and fire/logging road driving. What have folks been happy with lately for a winter oriented AT tire?

[PNWbrit]

Gonna need to replace the Cooper ATWs on my 4runner before next winter. It was a pretty perfect tire for my needs in the PNW with mostly dry roads until you get up to pass level... where it could be about as bad as it gets. And they performed far better than could be expected from a non-winter only tire. But, alas, Cooper has discontinued the ATW because of premature wear issues (likely the reason for such good winter performance) even though they have lasted the full 50k for me and my light foot. Gonna run them all summer and swap them out in the fall.

My commute to work is 7 miles RT, so i can afford to place a large emphasis on winter driving, but full on snows are not an option at this time. Also do a fair amount of summer road tripping and fire/logging road driving. What have folks been happy with lately for a winter oriented AT tire?

Nitto Terra Grappler G2 have been great on my Grand Cherokee for very similar use. (my particular size doesn't have the 3peak designation but I think that's a fairly arbitrary classification since most sizes do)

Can't comment on life span yet but I'd probably replace them at about 30k anyway since I find tires drop off in performance around then.

Previously had good experience with General Grabber AT2s on a Tacoma. Although one set seemed tough to keep balanced.

[El Chupacabra]

Gonna need to replace the Cooper ATWs ...
What have folks been happy with lately for a winter oriented AT tire?

I have zero miles on these, but I'm going to be using the Nokian Rotiiva AT as a winter tire. Started a thread on it here with link to the tire, if you want to consider it.

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/342077-Nokian-Rotiiva-AT-tires-anyone-here-used

[Viva]

I recently put a set of the new Toyo Open Country A/T 3s on my 87 4Runner. Great road (paved and dirt) characteristics on dry, so far. No chance to try rain, yet.

To be continued...

[steved]

For an AT the Wildpeak has been around but Yokohama now has an X-AT to look at. The KM3 MTs have been fine spring-fall but with dedicated snows...am weighing the AT savings.

[CascadeLuke]

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Thought I’d run this by the collective.. roughed up the sidewall on two tires. Have discount tire certificates (ins) for free replacement. My question is; tires have 25,000 miles on them and about 35-40% life left. Should I buy the other two out of pocket and keep the set of 4 straight on an awd? Just suck it up, now?
Leaning yes

[axebiker]

Thought I’d run this by the collective.. roughed up the sidewall on two tires. Have discount tire certificates (ins) for free replacement. My question is; tires have 25,000 miles on them and about 35-40% life left. Should I buy the other two out of pocket and keep the set of 4 straight on an awd? Just suck it up, now?
Leaning yes

I'm with you - and they aren't going to get any cheaper/more available.

Going back - I have Falken Wildpeak AT's on my Crosstrek (17") and my Ram 1500 (20"), and have to say I'm quite impressed by their feel & performance so far. The Ram tires were used - about 1250 miles, but I really like how quiet for an AT tire they are on my Crosstrek, and for $600, how could I go wrong? They drive much like a road tire as well. Time will tell once the weather turns, but honestly, we haven't even seen rain in MN in what seems like months. I guess the air quality is bad enough to need AT tires though.

[gaijin]

I recently put a set of the new Toyo Open Country A/T 3s on my 87 4Runner. Great road (paved and dirt) characteristics on dry, so far. No chance to try rain, yet.

To be continued...

Those are really popular here in JP.

Anyone have any experience with rain tires? I’m thinking my next set of summer tires might as well be rain tires.


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[Wes Mantooth]

Has anyone here run the Cooper Discoverer ST Maxx, specifically in winter? I'm currently running Duratracs on my 01 Tacoma and been super happy with them but they're nearing the end of their life and I just got a sidewall gash on a trail that's led to a very minor slow leak. I'm looking at the ST Maxx since it comes in a perfect size for what I'm looking for (255/85/16) vs getting Duratracs again but haven't found a ton of info on their winter performance. I don't drive my truck a ton in the winter so I don't have a good enough use case for dedicated winter tires, but I need them to be okay getting to trailheads and the ski hill on shitty icy/snowy roads. They don't have the same snow rating as the Duratrac but I'm not sure how much that really matters - it's an A/T tire after all so nothing's gonna be amazingly grippy

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Having had Duratracs, I would say get some Hankook Dynapro ATMS. Same mountain snow flake rating as duratrac but better in snow. Quieter on the road. Mud is the only thing they’re not better in.


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[Norseman]

Has anyone here run the Cooper Discoverer ST Maxx, specifically in winter? I'm currently running Duratracs on my 01 Tacoma and been super happy with them but they're nearing the end of their life and I just got a sidewall gash on a trail that's led to a very minor slow leak. I'm looking at the ST Maxx since it comes in a perfect size for what I'm looking for (255/85/16) vs getting Duratracs again but haven't found a ton of info on their winter performance. I don't drive my truck a ton in the winter so I don't have a good enough use case for dedicated winter tires, but I need them to be okay getting to trailheads and the ski hill on shitty icy/snowy roads. They don't have the same snow rating as the Duratrac but I'm not sure how much that really matters - it's an A/T tire after all so nothing's gonna be amazingly grippy

I ran a set of STMaxx on my Tundra and now have Duratracs, both 295/70R17.

I really liked the Coopers, but winter traction was the weakest attribute. They were fine when new and sharp-edged, but by the second winter they were poor on packed snow and just ok in deeper snow. There's just not enough siping to let the tread blocks expand and grab.

But as a summer tire they were kickass. Fairly quiet and wore well, great dry traction on rock, dirt, sand. Their 3-ply poly sidewall is a feature that shouldn't be overlooked... they are stiffer and more responsive than the Duratrac, and a good bit more resistant to damage. As you noted, the 2-ply sidewalls on the Duratrac are a weak point for an otherwise aggressive A/T. Duratracs are squirmier.

Duratracs are better in winter but not by some huge amount.

Got studded Nokians now

[Supermoon]

I'm with you - and they aren't going to get any cheaper/more available.

Going back - I have Falken Wildpeak AT's on my Crosstrek (17") and my Ram 1500 (20"), and have to say I'm quite impressed by their feel & performance so far. The Ram tires were used - about 1250 miles, but I really like how quiet for an AT tire they are on my Crosstrek, and for $600, how could I go wrong? They drive much like a road tire as well. Time will tell once the weather turns, but honestly, we haven't even seen rain in MN in what seems like months. I guess the air quality is bad enough to need AT tires though.

I put wildpeaks on my RAV4 in January and have loved them. They were great in the weird freezing rain/snow event we got in Portland over the winter which was the most challenging road conditions I’ve seen in a long time. Time will tell how they do in their second winter since I’m leaving them on for the summer.

[Falcon3]

Thought I’d run this by the collective.. roughed up the sidewall on two tires. Have discount tire certificates (ins) for free replacement. My question is; tires have 25,000 miles on them and about 35-40% life left. Should I buy the other two out of pocket and keep the set of 4 straight on an awd? Just suck it up, now?
Leaning yes

DiscountTire told me if I purchased certs for all 4 tires and one needed replacement on my AWD, they would prorate the other 3 if tread was too low. 35-40% left sounds definitely too low (generally 4/32 difference or 1/4” diameter).

Keep on them until they discount the other 2 tires.

[Name Redacted]

Ain’t y’all heard? Trucks are out. Siennas are the new vehicle of choice for the urban male. I recommend Nokians.