Tweet
Hey there !
I am seeking advice on what the heck is wrong with my Barons. What has gone wrong and how do I set them up right. I've posted a similar thread on epicski, but haven't got any replies so far.. Anyways, since it's my first post on this forum, I am unable to post pics, so I may reedit the post later, when I have at least few posts.
I'll start with the fact that I bought Barons back in 2013, used them in 2013/2014 seasons with no obvious problems. They were mounted on Volkl Gotamas 2014 by the best ski service around. The dude really knows what he's doing. I had him mount the bindings on skis, and adjust them to be used with Scarpa Mobe boots. Note that these are boots with AT soles. This year I went to my first skiing vacation back in January. It was one week long trip. During my last day on that trip I fell few times with no obvious reason, but since it was my last day, I thought that it must have been that I was tired. However, later that day (when I was packing up my skis), I noticed that one of the 'supports' on which heel
piece attaches to the binding plate is broken.
Well, I've started to look it up in the Internet and I've found two similar cases that happened to someone on TGR forums. Except for their heel pieces were literally torn off the plate, and these people ended up on a ground. One stated that he broke something. Anyways, I wrote to the local dealer, and they asked me to send them those heel pieces, and they replaced them with a new set of heel pieces (from EPF version). Because I was going on my second skiing trip, I took my skis, a set of new heel pieces, and went on a vacation. I figured that despite the fact that Barons are expected to be compatible (after adjustments) with AT boots, maybe they did not cope well with these particular boots. Also, it was supposed to be skiing 90% on groomed trails, so I decided to take another pair of boots, this time my old, proven Fischer Soma F8000. Some service at the ski resort mounted my heel pieces, adjusted sole length and afd plate. I checked that it fitted description found on this forum. Then I had 3 days without problem, but THEN suddenly one of the skis kept releasing everytime I tried to edge. So I fell down like 9 times before I made it down the slope, where I checked out the binding, and it turned out that the very same thing broke again.
This time also the second support was fractured. I ended up having to rent skis for the rest of the trip. Now, local distributor asked me to rent them my skis (send it over) so that they can try to find what's wrong. However, I planned to go on another skiing trip this Saturday, so they've sent me another heelpiece. I decided to try to mount it MYSELF according to tips found on these forum, check everything myself. So I started to adjust bindings, starting from the heel piece that 'survived':
1. Moved AFD plate as far back in tour mode as possible,
2. Adjusted sole length.
3. Readjusted AFD plate so that I can put my credit card between the plate and a boot sole (with some force).
4. Made sure that sole length is still OK.
At this point I had one binding set up. Then I took my second binding, and removed broken heel piece. And... I've noticed that the metal 'rail' that the whole heel piece moves on is kind of broken too, namely the 'rail' or 'guide' that the heel piece adjustment screw is moving on is kind of malformed
Now I'm wondering if it makes any sense to mount that heelpiece there, as it will very likely break again. Or am I wrong ? Now I'm pissed off as I am without skis again. I've never had bindings that would make that much trouble. At this point I would gladly throw those damn binding to the thrash can, but I don't want to spend another bunch of bucks on another pair of bindings. I've never had bindings that did not survive the skis that they're mounted on..
I am seeking advice on what the heck is wrong with my Barons. What has gone wrong and how do I set them up right. I've posted a similar thread on epicski, but haven't got any replies so far.. Anyways, since it's my first post on this forum, I am unable to post pics, so I may reedit the post later, when I have at least few posts.
I'll start with the fact that I bought Barons back in 2013, used them in 2013/2014 seasons with no obvious problems. They were mounted on Volkl Gotamas 2014 by the best ski service around. The dude really knows what he's doing. I had him mount the bindings on skis, and adjust them to be used with Scarpa Mobe boots. Note that these are boots with AT soles. This year I went to my first skiing vacation back in January. It was one week long trip. During my last day on that trip I fell few times with no obvious reason, but since it was my last day, I thought that it must have been that I was tired. However, later that day (when I was packing up my skis), I noticed that one of the 'supports' on which heel
piece attaches to the binding plate is broken.
Well, I've started to look it up in the Internet and I've found two similar cases that happened to someone on TGR forums. Except for their heel pieces were literally torn off the plate, and these people ended up on a ground. One stated that he broke something. Anyways, I wrote to the local dealer, and they asked me to send them those heel pieces, and they replaced them with a new set of heel pieces (from EPF version). Because I was going on my second skiing trip, I took my skis, a set of new heel pieces, and went on a vacation. I figured that despite the fact that Barons are expected to be compatible (after adjustments) with AT boots, maybe they did not cope well with these particular boots. Also, it was supposed to be skiing 90% on groomed trails, so I decided to take another pair of boots, this time my old, proven Fischer Soma F8000. Some service at the ski resort mounted my heel pieces, adjusted sole length and afd plate. I checked that it fitted description found on this forum. Then I had 3 days without problem, but THEN suddenly one of the skis kept releasing everytime I tried to edge. So I fell down like 9 times before I made it down the slope, where I checked out the binding, and it turned out that the very same thing broke again.
This time also the second support was fractured. I ended up having to rent skis for the rest of the trip. Now, local distributor asked me to rent them my skis (send it over) so that they can try to find what's wrong. However, I planned to go on another skiing trip this Saturday, so they've sent me another heelpiece. I decided to try to mount it MYSELF according to tips found on these forum, check everything myself. So I started to adjust bindings, starting from the heel piece that 'survived':
1. Moved AFD plate as far back in tour mode as possible,
2. Adjusted sole length.
3. Readjusted AFD plate so that I can put my credit card between the plate and a boot sole (with some force).
4. Made sure that sole length is still OK.
At this point I had one binding set up. Then I took my second binding, and removed broken heel piece. And... I've noticed that the metal 'rail' that the whole heel piece moves on is kind of broken too, namely the 'rail' or 'guide' that the heel piece adjustment screw is moving on is kind of malformed
Now I'm wondering if it makes any sense to mount that heelpiece there, as it will very likely break again. Or am I wrong ? Now I'm pissed off as I am without skis again. I've never had bindings that would make that much trouble. At this point I would gladly throw those damn binding to the thrash can, but I don't want to spend another bunch of bucks on another pair of bindings. I've never had bindings that did not survive the skis that they're mounted on..
Comment