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  • Leavenworth Skier
    Registered User
    • Aug 2011
    • 8155

    #211
    So, will we see Hoji ski the Khion or the Vulcan??? Fanboyz will make purchase decisions accordingly.

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    • verbier61
      Okavangophilist
      • Apr 2004
      • 4806

      #212
      Imvho, the metallic rear spoiler of the khion works very well, along with several subtle stiffening points scattered in the whole boots.
      coreshot.tumblr.com
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      • XXX-er
        Registered User
        • Mar 2008
        • 34296

        #213
        Originally posted by verbier61
        One buckle has already microadjust. Maybe also the other three will have after all these comments

        More generally speaking, the khion comes from new staff at dynafit (nicola viniero), so it has a lot if new features compared to the previous dyna boots
        Any chance of the new staff spec'ing their boots with liners we can use cuz if my feet would fit a Maestrale RS with intuition at 699 there is no fucking way I would have paid 799+ for a dynafit & then need to spend more $ for intuitions ?
        Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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        • Boissal
          "touring guy"
          • Jan 2009
          • 4429

          #214
          Originally posted by verbier61
          Spectre is too narrow for me. Vulcan is narrow. The khion is ok fir me as the freedom, the maestrale and the tlt6. Hope it helps.
          Are you saying that the Vulcan is wider than the Spectre and the TLT6 is even wider or am I reading you wrong?
          I felt that the exact opposite was true...
          "Your wife being mad is temporary, but pow turns do not get unmade" - mallwalker the wise

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          • Andyski
            Average on a good day
            • Sep 2010
            • 1157

            #215
            Originally posted by verbier61
            Lighter than the vulcan, and the cuff movements are.... Well you won't be disappointed.
            VERY interesting. A Vulcan for people who like overlaps. Now, about those flex stops...

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            • Andeh
              Registered User
              • Feb 2014
              • 2290

              #216
              Originally posted by Boissal
              Are you saying that the Vulcan is wider than the Spectre and the TLT6 is even wider or am I reading you wrong?
              I felt that the exact opposite was true...
              Yeah, I'm a bit confused by that as well. Speaking as someone with a wide midfoot, normal front width, TLT6 is very narrow, Maestrale is medium-ish. Haven't tried on Spectre/Vulcan, but everything I've read is they're Maestrale+ width.

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              • verbier61
                Okavangophilist
                • Apr 2004
                • 4806

                #217
                Originally posted by XXX-er
                Any chance of the new staff spec'ing their boots with liners we can use cuz if my feet would fit a Maestrale RS with intuition at 699 there is no fucking way I would have paid 799+ for a dynafit & then need to spend more $ for intuitions ?
                Fir what I've seen, the liners are no more made by palau. There is written "made in italy" so no palau and no intuition. In the proto I have, the liners have a low volume. Dunno whether the final production will be the same.
                coreshot.tumblr.com
                www.vibram.com

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                • verbier61
                  Okavangophilist
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 4806

                  #218
                  Originally posted by Boissal
                  Are you saying that the Vulcan is wider than the Spectre and the TLT6 is even wider or am I reading you wrong?
                  I felt that the exact opposite was true...
                  I report what my foot tells me after one week in the khion, years in maestrale and freedom and months in the tlt6 and few hours in the (first gen) spectre which was simply too painful.
                  Every foot is different. Mine is particularly nasty. The forefront of the tlt6 feels a bit wider than the vulcan to me, but, again, it might be because of the shape of my foot.
                  coreshot.tumblr.com
                  www.vibram.com

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                  • verbier61
                    Okavangophilist
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 4806

                    #219
                    Originally posted by Andyski
                    VERY interesting. A Vulcan for people who like overlaps. Now, about those flex stops...
                    Those flex stops are not made in metal
                    I mean... They seem to work in a progressive way.
                    coreshot.tumblr.com
                    www.vibram.com

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                    • Stairmaster
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 270

                      #220
                      Originally posted by verbier61
                      I report what my foot tells me after one week in the khion, years in maestrale and freedom and months in the tlt6 and few hours in the (first gen) spectre which was simply too painful.
                      Every foot is different. Mine is particularly nasty. The forefront of the tlt6 feels a bit wider than the vulcan to me, but, again, it might be because of the shape of my foot.
                      I found the Vulcan to be plenty wide for my D+ foot, but the instep killed that boot for me. I got a pair of TLT6's and they fit like a charm after baking the liners and they are roomy in the toe box, but that is fine for me if I'm going to be in my boots for 8 hours.

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                      • BushwackerinPA
                        passes out early
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 4432

                        #221
                        Originally posted by creaky fossil
                        The forgiving tail may help, spanker tails often make people hate a ski, but I seem to recall the old Enforcer not being spanky, it was harassed for just being too darned wide. Also, at the time, and probably still today to a certain extent, Nordica is invisible to many. Sorta like Fischer.



                        Was it a twin tip ever? I only recall the flat tail/micro turn-up tail.
                        http://www.evo.com/outlet/skis/nordi...used-2007.aspx yeah way back in the day. It was the best 100mm under foot crud buster that I ever tried of its day. It basically did not float in powder though. I had a pair along with a pair of 183 and 190 Gotama.
                        http://unofficialnetworks.com/category/locations/stowe/

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                        • SupreChicken
                          beacon of grace & agility
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 3185

                          #222
                          Originally posted by adrenalated
                          Lou mentions weights for the Khion in the comments.
                          1530g for carbon
                          1540g for non-carbon

                          Right in the same ballpark as Maestrale RS, Vulcan, Mercury, etc.
                          What about the ROM? 60 degrees? 74 to compete with the atomic offering?

                          Did the new tlt6 get lighter or a larger ROM?
                          wait!!!! waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait...Wait!
                          Zoolander wasn't a documentary?

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                          • auvgeek
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 5630

                            #223
                            Detailed Khion vs Vulcan comparos will be very interesting. Can anyone (verbier) speak to the fwd lean and flex progression of the Khion?

                            PS. I'm really surprised at how many people are saying the Vulcan is narrower than the TLT6. Maybe I need to give that boot a shot. I just couldn't get the TLT5 to fit me in width or instep so I pretty much wrote off the TLT6.
                            "Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers

                            photos

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                            • XXX-er
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 34296

                              #224
                              Originally posted by verbier61
                              Fir what I've seen, the liners are no more made by palau. There is written "made in italy" so no palau and no intuition. In the proto I have, the liners have a low volume. Dunno whether the final production will be the same.
                              I've had Palau's in Garmont and Dynafits

                              NO Palau is a positive move IME !

                              Thank you verbier 61 and Dynafit !
                              Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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                              • powtario
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 703

                                #225
                                Originally posted by SupreChicken
                                What about the ROM? 60 degrees? 74 to compete with the atomic offering?
                                Does it matter? I imagine any quoted ROM is out the window once you put a liner and leg into it. 74 degrees sounds like a circlejerk marketing claim.
                                Originally posted by iceman
                                This is kinda like the goose that laid the golden egg, but shittier.

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