Praxis Protest..just how cool is it?

[2FUNKY]

They do ski short due to their design. At your stats the 187 would be perfect. On ze line if you like more center mount/feel or back as much as -2 if you prefer a more traditional stance/feel.

[N1CK.]

especially when you get them into deep snow and open areas and can carry some speed. don't be afraid of the 187.

[Muggydude]

Get the 187. They have a ton of rocker and near reverse sidecut design allows them to pivot much quicker than a traditional ski would.

[whyturn]

That means I need a 196 to complement my 192


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[nickel]

That means I need a 196 to complement my 192


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Duh!

[Gate11]

That's really helpful. Thanks all. Now all that is left is to obsess over the choice between buying one of the stock pairs now, or waiting and hoping for ability to build a custom veneer pair before January.

[N1CK.]

Check your email for a discount code.

[HAB]

I'm with everyone above - I've got 'em in a 192, and they are the longest skis in my quiver by a little bit (everything else is 184-189) but that works for me (6', 165lb, strong directional skier).

And while the veneers are super sexy (love mine!) if I was in the market, I'd have a hard time turning the current sale down.

[nickel]

Check main thread for details but i wouldn't bet on the ability to build a custom anything in the immediate future. Looks like Keith is shifting his business model.

[Andyski]

First post, and I'm new to Praxis. Do Protests ski long or short? I don't hear anyone here talk about 177 Protests. Are they too short for most people?.

You already got the right answer, but for posterity in this thread: you have 30 pounds on me, but I find the 177 Protest to be a goddamned dream machine. The first year I had them I only toured on dynafits and they’re the perfect length for that use (tree pow) for me. Last year, I said fuck it and put alpine clamps on the sollyfits and did a few lift days with alpine boots with them and had a blast. Yes, you have to stay relatively centered, but nothing crazy.

I definitely had moments where I wanted the next size up, but 90% of the time I was too busy smiling my face off to even think about it. Far and away the most fun ski I’ve been on.

[Gate11]

I pulled the trigger yesterday on one of the last Protest 187s in stock. Thanks to everyone for the thoughtful commentary. I can't wait to get them to Japan in January.

I haven't yet bought bindings...Extra credit: any strong feelings on alpine bindings for the Protests? My Nordicas have Attack 13s and they're more or less fine. I don't really think much about bindings, TBH. But there seems to be a lot of love for Pivots here. I may have a boot upgrade in my future, so I'm a bit shy about bindings that don't have much BSL adjustment. The Attacks have pretty decent adjustment.

[Muggydude]

Praxis Protest..just how cool is it?

Attacks go on all my powder skis. Low stack height, light weight, durable, large Bsl adjustment range, easy to step into in powder. No brainer. 13s are great, 16s little more durable but I’ve never seen problems with 13s breaking.

Pivots are maybe better performance/release wise (marginally), but quite heavy, very limited bsl range, and can be difficult to step into in powder. They go on my hardpack skis and some big mountain skis for that reason

[tharmor]

But forza pivots are so hot right now


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[californiagrown]

Ive been looking for a stiff, super pivoty surfy powski for myself and Im not sure if the 192s would fit the bill. I basically want a long ARG, that doesnt suck quite so much on the way back to the lift. Im perfectly happy swapping skis in the afternoon.

Im 6' 3-4" 210lbs geared up, and ski at alpental so a lot of my skiing is tight, steep, technical terrain in heavy snow. I would love a ski that is very pivoty and can be skied with a neutral stance, but i need it to be stiff as well so it doesnt deflect and start plowing in deep heavy stuff (big pet peeve). There is only a single pair of 192 flex 3's for sale on the site right now, and i know 196s would be a better fit for me. How much would i miss the extra length especially in minigolf/pillow drop terrain?

Im dont need this ski, but for $550 new its piqued my interest for sure.

[doebedoe]

Given what you describe, I think a flex 3 is going to be too soft for you. I'm 40# lighter, skiing CO fluff instead of PNW heavy, and the flex is just right.