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Category killer - Scarpa Maestrale - now the lightest 4 buckle touring boot

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  • LeeLau
    Registered User
    • Feb 2005
    • 14442

    #1

    Category killer - Scarpa Maestrale - now the lightest 4 buckle touring boot



    - As stiff as the Spirit 4
    - About 300g lighter than Spirit 4
    - Drops in price over other boots reversing ugly trend of increasing prices! $ 599

    More details in the review.



    minus 15 deg lean



    Comparison of rear cuff heights (from L to R: Dynafit DNA, Garmont Megaride, Scarpa Shake, Maestrale and Dynafit Titan. The ruler is held level on the Titan's liner. The tallest boot shell is the Titan followed closely by the Shaka and Maestrale.



    Comparison of fronts of all boots show that they are all very comparable except for Dynafit DNA
  • Wunderkind
    Registered User
    • Jan 2010
    • 762

    #2
    Good review - now I gotta figure out if I'm going to drop coin on a TLT 5 next season or roll with this boot.

    Any comparison to the Dynafit Zzero 4C Carbon? Have you skied that boot?

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    • Jonathan S.
      Gel-powered Tech bindings
      • Dec 2004
      • 4723

      #3
      Originally posted by Wunderkind
      Any comparison to the Dynafit Zzero 4C Carbon? Have you skied that boot?
      He wrote the first review of it!
      Although the standards for comparison are a lot different these days.
      Would be interesting to see him revisit that review in the current context.
      Mo' skimo here: NE Rando Race Series

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      • LeeLau
        Registered User
        • Feb 2005
        • 14442

        #4
        I actually thought a lot about the ZZero carbon when I skied the Maestrale.

        The ZZero was laterally stiff but not very fore-aft stiff and I had to be very delicate with it in variable snow.

        The Maestrale is just as laterally stiff and stiffer fore-aft. And is slightly lighter - and tours much much better.

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        • rludes025
          Hack Master
          • Oct 2008
          • 4860

          #5
          That looks like a sick boot. Lace up Liner? I wish more boots still did this.

          I think I will have to use the FrakenDanalis one more year unfortunately.
          a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort

          Formerly Rludes025

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          • pfluffenmeister
            lusty gear whore
            • Dec 2007
            • 7470

            #6
            hmmm ... choices, choices
            In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

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            • skiitsbetter
              Off the heezy
              • Aug 2006
              • 726

              #7
              soo very tempting... lightweight...reasonably priced. Some cool lighter weight reasonably priced boots that still ski very well for next year! (TLT5 MTN, Maestrale). Strong/stiff, light, cheap; pick three?
              for a bad time click

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              • LeeLau
                Registered User
                • Feb 2005
                • 14442

                #8
                Originally posted by skiitsbetter
                soo very tempting... lightweight...reasonably priced. Some cool lighter weight reasonably priced boots that still ski very well for next year! (TLT5 MTN, Maestrale). Strong/stiff, light, cheap; pick three?
                EXACTLY. I have no idea how Scarpa could have hit that $ 599 pricepoint. Amazing really and good for the consumer.

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                • Verde
                  mack
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 293

                  #9
                  Thanks for this review. I was about to pull the trigger on pair of ZZeros.

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                  • salomonskiier12
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 310

                    #10
                    Ski The East

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                    • Summit
                      *NOT* an expert
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 23186

                      #11
                      I currently use Spirit 3's and swap the stock tongues with black stiff tornado (spirit 4) tongues for the downhill. I also have added rear spoilers and boosters.

                      How can I expect the tourability and skiability to compare if I use the same mods? Or can I even swap in stiff tongues?

                      Does the Spirit 3 have the same 15deg back angle? The 3s sure do go back far.

                      If these are as tourable as the 3 with touring tongue and can have stiff tongues added, it is definitely my next boot.

                      How much has the forefoot last shrunk?

                      I'd otherwise been considering a Titan to complement my Spirit 3s. But I'd rather only have two pairs of boots, not three.
                      Last edited by summit; 05-07-2010, 03:18 PM.
                      Originally posted by blurred
                      skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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                      • LeeLau
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 14442

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Summit
                        I currently use Spirit 3's and swap the stock tongues with black stiff tornado (spirit 4) tongues for the downhill. I also have added rear spoilers and boosters.

                        How can I expect the tourability and skiability to compare if I use the same mods? Or can I even swap in stiff tongues?

                        Does the Spirit 3 have the same 15deg back angle? The 3s sure do go back far.

                        If these are as tourable as the 3 with touring tongue and can have stiff tongues added, it is definitely my next boot.

                        How much has the forefoot last shrunk?

                        I'd otherwise been considering a Titan to complement my Spirit 3s. But I'd rather only have two pairs of boots, not three.
                        I'm still trying to confirm the forefoot last shrinkage. But if you fit a Titan without punching you'll fit a Maestrale. Re the Spirit 3 I had to tighten the toe buckle a lot to get into it so if you're someone who gets into a stock un-punched Spirit 3 without any punching TRY the Maestrale before you buy

                        You cannot add stiff tongues - it doesnt have the same design. I'll ask Scarpa if they're considering adding a different tongue for this boot. Recall that this boot is a good deal stiffer fore-aft than the Spirit 3, Spirit 4 with the soft tongue - but I didn't think it was quite as stiff as the Spirit 4 with stiff tongue (close but not as stiff)

                        The Spirit 3 leaned back about 5 deg from vertical - really good at the time but nothing like this Maestrale.

                        Let me get back to you on the possibility of stiffer tongues for Maestrale.

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                        • Jonathan S.
                          Gel-powered Tech bindings
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 4723

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LeeLau
                          I actually thought a lot about the ZZero carbon when I skied the Maestrale.

                          The ZZero was laterally stiff but not very fore-aft stiff and I had to be very delicate with it in variable snow.

                          The Maestrale is just as laterally stiff and stiffer fore-aft. And is slightly lighter - and tours much much better.
                          Tours much much better with . . . all the buckles & strap latched but loose? Or the two upper cuff buckles and power strap completely undone?
                          Mo' skimo here: NE Rando Race Series

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                          • LeeLau
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 14442

                            #14
                            Jon - see wildsnow reply to your question. I tour the same with all boots - buckles undone in loosest setting and powerstrap done up loose (SNUG - contrast with TIGHT) just so it doesn't drag around in snow

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                            • harpo-the-skier
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 3618

                              #15
                              LL,

                              You said in your review that the liner is the Pro Tour without the laces. Does the Maestral liner have eyelets so you can add your own laces if you want?

                              Also, I talked to someone at Scarpa today and they said the Maestral has the same last as the F1/F3, so you would be the same size in the F1/F3/Maestral.

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