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  • marshalolson
    bikepathlete
    • Oct 2004
    • 12456

    #1

    DPS Hybrid vs Pure carbon

    first off, yes i have been working for DPS for a bit.

    not trying to be a shill, just explain the different ride qualities of the two skis, as not many people have much time on them.... and i get asked all the time about the differences and ride characteristics.

    hopefully my impressions help.

    PURE skis: are super light, very reactive, and require a technical skier to harness the design goals. the skis are very torsionally rigid, very light, and very powerful, so if you are not on the edges on firm, or the tune is off, they can provide feedback to your feet. the PURE skis are super fun on groomed, and are life changing in legit powder. in heavy chop, mank, wind hammered, etc, they require a skilled and technical pilot; fully engaging and bending the ski. if the pilot and style is there, these skis kill it in chop and mank. but if not: the skis will give feedback if you are making lazy turns in poorer quality snow. this means you are off edge and not applying the diesel. The pure skis also completely rail, and the narrower "all-mountain" skis are a blast. they shred groomed, but are way more versatile due to the low swing weight and pop that 95 and narrower metal laminate skis give up.

    HYBRID skis: are still fairly light compared to most race-room quality skis, and i would count these in their midst in terms of materials and finishing. they offer a nice damp ride that is still more reactive and responsive than metal laminate or full fiberglass skis. they have the same flex pattern as the PURE, but are about 400g per ski heavier (on a lotus 120). i think they compare very favorably to a high end rossi/dynastar/salomon in terms of construction. i am very stoked personally on the hybrid. it offers a great ride quality overall, that is more inline with conventional construction skis, but with some nice upgrades that boost the pop and responsiveness of the ski.

    anyways, just my .02 - i came away from a bunch of skiing on the hybrids that they are not "lower end" or "price point" to the PURE, but rather are striving for a different ride characteristic and design goal - and will fair well in comparision to other skis on the market.

    hopefully this is useful in some manner.
    Last edited by marshalolson; 02-16-2010, 11:43 AM.
    go for rob

    www.dpsskis.com
  • Milkshakes
    You win, you always do...
    • Dec 2009
    • 106

    #2
    Good post. I was really wondering about the ride characteristics between the two. There haven't been a lot of reviews on the hybrid skis...

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    • marshalolson
      bikepathlete
      • Oct 2004
      • 12456

      #3
      edited to clarify some stream of conscienceness blathering.
      go for rob

      www.dpsskis.com

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      • Jax
        Colorado
        • Mar 2005
        • 2934

        #4
        Nicely done.

        Those hybrid Wailer 95's were awesome considering the testing conditions that day, they were very smooth and damp, yet still felt lighter than Dynastar/Rossi/Salomon models of similar comparison. I liked them a lot!

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        • JeffreyJim
          Banned
          • Oct 2006
          • 2453

          #5
          Agreed on all accounts...except I am not quite "refined" (can't think of a better word) of a tester as Marshal.

          I notice this:

          Pure: Light, snappy (but a different *kind* of snappiness), unique feeling, more of the "snow feel" transfered to the skier, playful. In pow/untracked smooth snow these rule. Can't really fault them in anyway. In mank/chop/hard pack/ anything un-smooth these take a bit more work and focus.

          Hybrid: Damp, middle-of-the-road weight, POP (as in lots of it). Point em and hold on. I can blast through shit on my hybrids without the fear of deflection (or at least as much deflection).

          For me, I base the decision off binders. If I'm putting an alpine binder on the ski, I am going hybrid because they'll probably see in bounds skiing where weight doesn't really matter to me and I'll probably like the damp crud busting abilities. If I'm going AT I'm going Pure.

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          • Daywalker
            Steezy Leprechaun
            • Dec 2005
            • 2535

            #6
            Do both get the S.S. treatment for next year?
            dayglo aerobic enthusiast

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            • marshalolson
              bikepathlete
              • Oct 2004
              • 12456

              #7
              the SS is for the pure carbon skis.
              go for rob

              www.dpsskis.com

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              • Core Shot
                Registered Abuser
                • Mar 2005
                • 22549

                #8
                1) that is really cool data. Previously, I thought Hybrid was a poor mans version of Pure Carbon.
                You make the Hybrid something I want to try and buy.
                Well done.

                2) tell the folks at DPS to hire you to write copy for them.
                Their current website has way less useful info like this than the old website had.

                3) have you ridden the RP ?? That's the ski I need to learn more about.
                Kill all the telemarkers
                But they’ll put us in jail if we kill all the telemarkers
                Telemarketers! Kill the telemarketers!
                Oh we can do that. We don’t even need a reason

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                • marshalolson
                  bikepathlete
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 12456

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Core Shot
                  have you ridden the RP ?? That's the ski I need to learn more about.
                  pm sent...
                  go for rob

                  www.dpsskis.com

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                  • ripitxxx
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 23

                    #10
                    nice marshal.....................

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                    • whorehey
                      my name - en espanol
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 2738

                      #11
                      Originally posted by marshalolson
                      pm sent...
                      can I get that pm as well Marshall.
                      I would like to hear impressions of the W112RP.
                      Looking for a lightweight version of the S7, which I think this might be.
                      Aggressive in my own mind

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                      • vailcat
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 283

                        #12
                        umm double that resend of the pm???????
                        Paleezzz???

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                        • dckans
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 1

                          #13
                          RP 112

                          Marshal, I would love to hear about the RP 112 also. Thx

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                          • Milkshakes
                            You win, you always do...
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 106

                            #14
                            I'd love to hear also. Highly considering it for next year. TIA...

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                            • squatch
                              high speed goofy
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1786

                              #15
                              Originally posted by marshalolson
                              pm sent...
                              i would like to learn more about a 200cm version, while you're at it
                              Originally posted by Dantheman
                              ...I would have dove into that bush like Jon McMurray.

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