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holy shit... the swedish edition:
redinculously sexy
redinculously sexy
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Read/searched through this thread as well as the SS specific thread and I can't seem to find any comparison of the pure vs hybrid 112. Maybe it's there and I just missed it...
Really considering laying down some cash for pre-order on these and am just not sure if I want the pure w/ ss tech or the hybrid.
I have a pair of pure w105's w/ dynafits for touring (which i love for that purpose) but the one gripe I have is that when i get into some variable/mixed conditions, I miss the damp/smooth ride from a ski w/ some substance. If DPS wouldn't have introduced SS tech, I would have be going w/ the hybrid no question but now I'm torn...
Anyone w/ thoughts or info?Comment
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this may help:
[ame="http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185535"]DPS Hybrid vs Pure carbon - Teton Gravity Research Forums[/ame]fur bearing, drunk, prancing eurosnobComment
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Yeah, I did read this one as well, I know the date is fairly recent but it doesn't really reference SS so wasn't sure if this was still accurate since one of the main points they are pushing w/ SS is to provide a damper (more damp?) and more stable ride while keeping the weight down.
thx though.Comment
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^^^ pretty sure it applies, but would love to hear it again from marshal or anyone else from dps.Comment
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I haven't ridden the new SS pures, but for touring, where I'd go for less weight over damper performance (to a reasonable point), if the SS tech does even half of what it claims, it will be one hell of a solid ride in the backcountry. I tour with W105 Pures @ FT12s, and actually find them damp enough even when scooting back from slackcountry on groomers, as the low early rise sufficiently engages the ski to simply rail in most conditions (only exception: sticky mank or windcrust, which sucks on nearly every ski I've ever ridden).
That said, ff I was to ride everyday inbounds on DPS, I'd buy Hybrids. The way I see it, the Pures are for backcountry pursuits where every gram begins to count, especially the weight on your feet. They're a real treat of a ski, the Pures.Comment
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just to expand on this a little from a shack in ak, testing hybrid and pures...
for true pow, the pure w. ss cannot be beat, inbouds, bc, heli, wherever.... the pure is it. in eal pow, they are so poppy and responsive, i cannot think of ever wanting sething else.
the hybrid kills it in true pow, but my thought that were they reallyshine is in the cut up, trackd out conditions.
i simply call them different strokes for different folks. i guess it comes down to what you are looking for, and what skiing style you have, and how your conditions are.
ok, peace, headed to the chopper.Comment
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Damn. I've been ragging on Marshal to get down to New Mexico and get on some snow. But, um, nevermind.
And if Heaven exists, I think it's a place where every one of your emails ends with:
"Ok, peace, headed to the chopper."Comment
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Ya, Marshal has a point: Pure construction in powder is worth the bang for buck regardless of where you are, inbounds or out. I've been killing it on Lotus120 Pures the past two weeks in Whistler (it's been dumping here). The pure construction is unbelievably lively and it makes pow skiing a real treat -- as well as bootpacking (well almost a treat). I find the Pures do damn well in chop and they hold their own against much heavier woodcore skis straightlining semi-bumped out bowls at the end of the day. The Pure construction is strong.
But hey, DPS offers both flavours. As Marshal says, the Hybrid handles chop even better. Depends on your priorities (and wallet). I just see Pures as the ultimate touring ski as you can give bigger shapes and styles without having to haul around that much more weight.Comment
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sooo, since you are in paradise, with a full quiver of DPS . . .
Would you ever choose the RP112 in the heli over the lotus 138?
I guess you could, just for variety sake. But would you choose it if you were not "testing" skis?
Folllow up question:
If a lotus 138 is a "10" on the slarve-o-meter and a traditional plank is a zero, then what rating would you give to the RP112?
PS - your life sucks. no wait, that's my life.Kill all the telemarkers
But they’ll put us in jail if we kill all the telemarkers
Telemarketers! Kill the telemarketers!
Oh we can do that. We don’t even need a reasonComment
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core shot-
in a perfect world with unlimited resources i would own:
+lotus 138 pure as a true soft snow, big mountain and powder ski. it would see probably 15-20+ days. i would ski these inbounds on 8-10+ inches, good powder days that require hike-to, and the epic, big days...
+wailer 112rp pure w/ touring bindings (for me that is dukes) as a side country, backcountry, general purpose ski. these would see 30-40 days a year.
+wailer 112rp hybrid w/ alpine bindings as a dedicated inbounds every dya ski. these would see 40+ days of skiing and service everything from chopped inbounds pow, sunny days, early season groomers and bumps/harpack.
i really feel like these are the only skis i personally would need, and would actually feel like more skis than that would be a total overlap and extraneous.
if i was heading on a trip (ak, jackson, whatever), i would bring the 138s and w112 pure w/ touring bindings. between those 2 pair, i feel i could get done whatever was required and get it done right.
as far a "slarve-o-meter" i would put the w112rp at an 8.5. the 138 is pretty much effortless. the w112rp requires little effort, but just a tiny bit of input to get it to slarve out... i think the more i ski them, the more effortless this will become... but they are as loose skiing as you want them to be.
i do not know that i would grab the w112rp over the 138 in ak specifically, unless you are spending a day of shredding luxury pow in recycled/recrystalized snow, with some variable runouts. but the 112rp would be totally confident and capable skiing gnarly spines and pointing out chutes without question, and as conditions change on a trip, i could definately see skiing them, you know?
hope that makes sense? not saying the above is absolute, just that is how the skis speak to my personal needs.Last edited by marshalolson; 04-10-2010, 10:16 AM.Comment
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Very close to pulling the tripper on the 112 pures for my first dynafit setup!Comment
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