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  • paul1987
    Registered User
    • May 2008
    • 9

    #1

    Avalung question???

    So ive been reading tons of reviews of the avalung and a main criticism is that the rider must get the tube in his/her mouth before they start tumbling etc.... If you forgive my ignorance (I have never been in an avalanche), why cant that person get the tube in their mouth after the avalanche. Surely moving your mouth 3 inches left is possible even under an avi??? Maybe not. Anyone have an answer?
  • jerr
    Underwater trapeze artist
    • Jun 2006
    • 998

    #2
    Dude... If you're rolling in a slide you have no control over anything. Think irresistible force moving every ounce of your body in a different direction and you can control none of it. Then couple it with suddenness and multiply it by terror. Even if you're sitting on top...once things begin that tubes either in, or it's out for the duration.
    Last edited by jerr; 07-11-2008, 05:27 AM.
    Nine out of ten Jeremy's prefer a warm jacket to a warm day

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    • CG
      searching
      • Nov 2007
      • 972

      #3
      ^^^
      in addition to that, once the snow stops moving it locks up like concrete, unless your lucky you couldn't move your head 3cm. That said I do have an avalung and wear it in the bc at all times.
      Wait, What?
      Friends of Berthoud Pass

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      • murph
        457 kHz
        • Jul 2007
        • 330

        #4
        The tube is quite flexible. After a tumble I could imagine the mouthpiece being a foot or more away from your mouth, easily.

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        • awake1563
          awake1563
          • Mar 2008
          • 433

          #5
          this post just goes to show that you're taking the idiots approach to avalanche safety. Looking at all the gizmos, probably wasting alot of money on them, yet not even educating yourself on the basics of avalanche knowledge. If you had read any one of numerous avy handbooks, you would already know the answer to your question. I'm betting this is not the only gap in your essential knowledge database. Whatever you do, don't go into the backcountry, and start reading like your life depends on it. Because it does.
          but I know we can't all stay here forever, so I wanna write my words on the face of today...

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          • Smokey McPole

            #6
            Originally posted by awake1563
            this post just goes to show that you're taking the idiots approach to avalanche safety. Looking at all the gizmos, probably wasting alot of money on them, yet not even educating yourself on the basics of avalanche knowledge. If you had read any one of numerous avy handbooks, you would already know the answer to your question. I'm betting this is not the only gap in your essential knowledge database. Whatever you do, don't go into the backcountry, and start reading like your life depends on it. Because it does.
            Yeah! Plus - after you do read one of them avalanche handbooks you can go on tha interwebz and call people idiots because they don't have all the reading experience that you do!



            x2 what everybody else besides the above dipshit said. Slides are unbelievably violent. There's a chance the whole Avalung unit could be completely ripped off of you when it all comes to a halt.

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            • Core Shot
              Registered Abuser
              • Mar 2005
              • 22543

              #7
              AQUAlung is the new gizmo to use. Take a scuba tank, and ski with the regulator in your mouth the whole way down.

              If its a really sketchy run, I ductape the regulator to my mouth.
              Kill all the telemarkers
              But they’ll put us in jail if we kill all the telemarkers
              Telemarketers! Kill the telemarketers!
              Oh we can do that. We don’t even need a reason

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              • Smokey McPole

                #8
                Originally posted by Core Shot
                AQUAlung is the new gizmo to use. Take a scuba tank, and ski with the regulator in your mouth the whole way down.

                If its a really sketchy run, I ductape the regulator to my mouth.
                I got that beat - I fill the tank with nitrous oxide.

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                • flyby
                  F*CK YEAH POTATOES
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1614

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jerzilla!!!
                  I got that beat - I fill the tank with nitrous oxide.
                  wait, isn't that, like, party gas?
                  Originally posted by Divebomber
                  OR sign it with a fake sig, then later they say "we have your sig!" NO you dont!

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                  • Smokey McPole

                    #10

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                    • awake1563
                      awake1563
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 433

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jerzilla!!!
                      Yeah! Plus - after you do read one of them avalanche handbooks you can go on tha interwebz and call people idiots because they don't have all the reading experience that you do!



                      x2 what everybody else besides the above dipshit said. Slides are unbelievably violent. There's a chance the whole Avalung unit could be completely ripped off of you when it all comes to a halt.
                      ooohh jerzilla's still got the moves... crushing it there buddy!!

                      although I'm betting the avalung would get ripped off before you came to a halt...

                      I'm sorry Jer, maybe we should have an official policy to tell people to go ski 45 degree slopes during and immediately after 2 foot dumps to further their avalanche knowledge. Books are dumb. Thankyou for the enlightenment.
                      but I know we can't all stay here forever, so I wanna write my words on the face of today...

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                      • paul1987
                        Registered User
                        • May 2008
                        • 9

                        #12
                        awake1563- You are totally useless. These forums are a way of helping each other out and improving the avalanche education you seem to preach on. My lack of avi experience is exactly why im asking these questions. You assume im a fucking idiot who spends all the money without thinking bout what im doing. Im currently reading 2 books on the backcountry- i apologise for not coming to the avalung section yet. Your reply is just irriatating and pretty unhelpful.

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                        • Smokey McPole

                          #13
                          Originally posted by awake1563
                          Books are dumb.
                          Actually, books are cool. What's dumb is when some JONG reads one and then thinks he's qualified to call other people idiots when they ask a simple question about a piece of gear (ASSuming, of course, that they don't possess the same high level of avalanche education that he does).

                          Gizmos are cool. Do they make you safer? No. Do they make you invincable? No. Could they save your life? Possibly. I'm sure even a supa-core bro-brah BC god such as yourself indulges in gizmos. What's that beepy thing strapped to your JONGy torso? What's that tent-pole thingy in your pack? What's that little shovel deal? What's that clinometer thing? What's that digital thermometer?

                          I've got an Avalung. I don't know if it will ever save my life, but it only cost about $100 and it weighs about as much as a single glove so the plusses outweigh the single minus of possibly being looked down upon by super hard-core freshman year dishwashers like awake1563.

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                          • jerr
                            Underwater trapeze artist
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 998

                            #14
                            Originally posted by paul1987
                            So ive been reading tons of reviews of the avalung and a main criticism is that the rider must get the tube in his/her mouth before they start tumbling etc.... If you forgive my ignorance (I have never been in an avalanche), why cant that person get the tube in their mouth after the avalanche. Surely moving your mouth 3 inches left is possible even under an avi??? Maybe not. Anyone have an answer?
                            This may be an uninformed question but it is actually a warranted one.
                            Nine out of ten Jeremy's prefer a warm jacket to a warm day

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                            • The Reverend Floater
                              Southbound Pachyderm
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 9681

                              #15
                              Flaming someone for asking about anything avy-related is a bit bonerish, don't you think? And it wasn't even a dumb question...in our avy class, we get much, much dumber questions by the boatload.

                              To the OP--I ski with an avalung. I had to buy a bigger BC pack, anyhow, so why not buy an extra "layer" of protection? There is absolutely a substantial risk that the regulator will be ripped from your mouth, if you are even lucky enough to get it there. BUT--they have saved lives, no doubt about it. I'm sure those folks would advocate their use pretty strongly.

                              On top of all this, the packs are killer...great fit, good distribution and BD quality.
                              "All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."

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