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  • BC13
    Registered User
    • Oct 2007
    • 727

    #1

    Sprained ankle in stiff ski boot? WTF?

    I lost a ski in some very soft bumps, my remaining (right) ski then plunged for the depths, sending me into a forward twisting digger. My right ski did not come off until its tip (or tail- not quite sure which) helicoptored back into the snow. When the ski hit the snow it felt like someone hit me in the ankle and shin with a shovel. No searing or knife like pain I've experienced with blown ACL or herniated disks. Just like someone bashed me with a heavy shovel.

    After roughly 5 minutes most of the pain dissapated and the ankle felt more weakness than pain. I was able to ski down and iced the ankle for 1/2 hour. After 1/2 hour of ice I tried to ski but it was a no go. I had no confidence in the ankle as it felt very unstable and was fairly painful.

    The ankle ended up swelling right on the outside ankle bone. Previous ankle sprains I experienced swelled below the ankle bone, more where the foot and ankle connect (traditional roll over sprains). The front 1/3 of the ankle bone is still pretty sore. It feels like there is a "band" (some soft tissue?) that runs up from the front of the outside ankle bone along the outside of the shin bone that has been strained. Anyways, I'm assuming its a just a PIA sprain. There is only minor discoloration and I can gimp around on the ankle. I would "assume" a break would hurt a lot more to walk on.

    I am going to Utah in 3 weeks and need to get this ankle back in shape ASAP. Any tips? I iced for the first 48 hrs, and am now switching between ice and heat. Would the next step be the stationary bike? Any suggestions on getting the ankle back in action would be appreciated. I could go to the Ortho and get a script for PT, but the only thing I can think PT would do other than ice and heat would be ultrsound, and possibly electric stim. Should I go the MD/PT route or wait a few more days (it happened saturday, and feels about 20% better 4 days later)?


    Also, How the hell did I sprain my ankle in the boot? I ski Nordica Beasts with a 110 flex. I would have thought my knee would blow before my ankle would suffer any sort of damage in a plastic boot. And yes, I'll take the ankle over a knee any day. I can only guess that the soft snow slowed the binding release of the helicptoring ski upon impact and my foot was torqued pretty welll before the binding released. Any thoughts?

    Thanks.
  • rehabit
    Maggot
    • Jun 2006
    • 576

    #2
    Since you asked...

    Go to the doctor. Always better safe than sorry. If you have insurance and an ortho doc you trust...

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    • Prindle_16
      Registered User
      • Aug 2005
      • 1660

      #3
      I sprained an ankle in stiff ski boots also. Tecnica TNT explosion 8 has to have a flex of 110 or higher. This sprain occured in 2000 or 2001 ski season.
      My sprain was nailing a rock at speed and forward flexing my ankle causing the sprain. I wore an air cast when I wasn't skiing and found a neoprene sleeve that I could wear inside the boot with little fit discomfort.
      I went to a doc right away and started rehab shortly afterwards. (Bands)
      I was not skiing 3 weeks post sprain. It took years for my ankle to properly heal so I could not wear a brace in my ski boot.

      Three weeks I think is too soon IMHO

      See a doc and start rehab pronto.
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      • BC13
        Registered User
        • Oct 2007
        • 727

        #4
        I took your advice and went to an Urgy center for an X Ray and PT script. Pretty much as I thought - Sprained ankle. I did get the PT script and will likely be able to start PT on Friday.

        Thanks for the replies. I guess I knew I should get it checked out, but was using a real busy work week as an excuse for not getting to the Doc. I could not get into the Ortho until next week so I figured I'd take the shortest route to PT and hit the Doc in the Box. In and out with script in hand in less than 30 minutes - sheer efficiency

        Prindle, That sounds like one hell of a sprain. I know years ago I was told a clean break is better than a bad sprain. Your ankle seems to prove that saying. I know 3 weeks is a bit on the short side for rehab, but I am gonna think postively and hope for the best. If it still bothers me I'll tape it every day and wear a brace if need be.

        Thanks

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        • Vinman
          Elbow deep
          • Nov 2003
          • 3647

          #5
          foot stays put, lower leg rotates in the upper cuff = sprained ankle prolly luck it wan't your knee.
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          • BC13
            Registered User
            • Oct 2007
            • 727

            #6
            Originally posted by Vinman
            foot stays put, lower leg rotates in the upper cuff = sprained ankle prolly luck it wan't your knee.
            I think I'm damned lucky it was not my knee.

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            • Ripzalot
              Poopiehead
              • Oct 2003
              • 7581

              #7
              Originally posted by BC13
              Prindle, That sounds like one hell of a sprain. I know years ago I was told a clean break is better than a bad sprain. Your ankle seems to prove that saying. I know 3 weeks is a bit on the short side for rehab, but I am gonna think postively and hope for the best. If it still bothers me I'll tape it every day and wear a brace if need be.

              Thanks
              fyi - i have a similar problem. chronic ankle sprain since last MARCH. (i biked all summer with a brace until it started really bothering me around sept/oct). an early season digger twisted my ankle like vinman described and re-sprained it. i took two days off then was back on skis. i was able to ski almost every day over the christmas break with no problem.

              do your PT exercises but don't tape or wear a brace if you can help it. this will only prolong the sprain because the brace will keep your ankle weak. obviously, you dont need to tape or brace it in a ski boot but i'm talking about other activities. just take it easy on it, ice and ibuprofen as needed and you'll probably be fine.

              good luck!

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              • Fritz
                Steve McKenna'd
                • Sep 2006
                • 2883

                #8
                Dude, same problem for me. Last Saturday I dropped into a $$$$ looking pillow only to find out that there was a rock pile 6" underneath. Broke my ankle on both sides. I was skiing in Scarpa Tornado Pros on Supermojo 103s/916s. Didn't even fucking fall. Just broke my ankle and kept on skiing until I realized there was something seriously wrong.
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                • BC13
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 727

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fritz
                  Dude, same problem for me. Last Saturday I dropped into a $$$$ looking pillow only to find out that there was a rock pile 6" underneath. Broke my ankle on both sides. I was skiing in Scarpa Tornado Pros on Supermojo 103s/916s. Didn't even fucking fall. Just broke my ankle and kept on skiing until I realized there was something seriously wrong.
                  Fritz, that plain sucks. DId the Doc give you any explanation of "why or how" your ankle broke while in the boot without any torquing or twisting?

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                  • Fritz
                    Steve McKenna'd
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 2883

                    #10
                    No, she had no clue how I did it. I'm thinking it was just a really quick and violoent flex.
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                    • Aenigma
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 720

                      #11
                      I managed to sprain my ankle on Christmas (in FR120's) and it's still swollen right now just ahead of the ankle bone. It happened when my ski tip caught on some debris and got whipped back around me, so maybe something similar to what you're going through. Unfortunately I blew my knee on that one too, so I can't tell you if it's skiable or not.

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                      • steved
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 827

                        #12
                        ...somewhat the same...only minor though

                        Had some Speedmachine10s a few years ago...kinda thin liners, especially though the cuff area...cuff was huge for my lower shin/leg area...just allowed too much wedging between plastic->liner->shinbone when rolling the ankles and heavy forward pressure into the corners of the cuff. A little bowleggedness in addition didn't help any... Found boots with better fitting cuff area for me...it was a quick move. Best of luck in healin' up...

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                        • terrywinkle
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1

                          #13
                          hi

                          Try reading this article, it may help.

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                          • jonny_b
                            Registered User
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 4

                            #14
                            just tore ligaments in my ankle spinning off a jump...when i landed my tip dug in, ski didn't pop off and my body kept rotating...heard and felt a pop right away, and was pretty relieved it wasn't my knee... doctor said 4-6 weeks recovery, but that's just for regular walking and such... how long did it take you guys to get back on the hill?

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                            • aj5474
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 42

                              #15
                              I sprained my ankle in december doing a hurdle drill. If your agressive with the treatment ie : icing, resistance bands, maintaining flexibility, muscle stimulation you can get back in little more than 2 weeks. I was skiing after 2 and a half and was jogging alittle before then. The ankle will take a while to heal (mine is still weaker than its counterpart) but you can get back fairly quickly if you do it right.

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