Second/Vacation Homes

[XXX-er]

just steal an oxyacetylene torch setup and be in that container no problem

I think thats how it is now if there isnt someone living in a house the tweakers are gona get in there and I've seen a couple houses boarded up where the owner has suddenly passed

who and why ? Last week somebody was rummaging in my carport at 5am so I asked the tennant if any of her shit got stolen, she sez they were about to make off with some random shit which made no sense and apparently thats what they do, get really fucked up and go out stealing stuff that makes no sense

[Garbowski]

What's an acre of campable to buildable land go for these days? Location, Location, Location of course- just some woods or whatever, no hunting or views etc.

[dan_pdx]

If they'll break into cars at trailheads to steal a backpack, why wouldn't they get into a container that might have bigger/better toys/tools? You just need an angle grinder and they already have those to cut u locks.

[Name Redacted]

Sure, people can break into anything anywhere man. Put a camera on it. Have it in sight of the neighbors (like in that pic, you can seen a neighbor's camper). Don't be in a high crime area to begin with. Put a gate to the property. Insure the stuff in the container. Lots of things you can do to sleep at night. You are going to be taking a chance, but that container is a lot harder to get into than a house is. And what are you gonna keep in there that you are really that worried about losing?

[dan_pdx]

What's an acre of campable to buildable land go for these days? Location, Location, Location of course- just some woods or whatever, no hunting or views etc.

I've been fantasizing about the white salmon area in the Columbia River gorge. There are lots from under an acre in/near town up to dozens of acres with no utilities as you get further afield. Maybe around $10k per acre at the cheapest, but there are no $10k 1 acre lots, you're looking at 5+ acres. Not many listings under $100k. The 1 acre+/- lots close to town, maybe with views, are $400k or so

[dan_pdx]

Sure, people can break into anything anywhere man. Put a camera on it. Have it in sight of the neighbors (like in that pic, you can seen a neighbor's camper). Don't be in a high crime area to begin with. Put a gate to the property. Insure the stuff in the container. Lots of things you can do to sleep at night. You are going to be taking a chance, but that container is a lot harder to get into than a house is. And what are you gonna keep in there that you are really that worried about losing?

Whoa, no need to litigate the details, I just mentioned something that was on my mind as I fantasize about having a country place. In an ideal world, I'd have some bikes out there, maybe SUPs and ski gear. Maybe some landscaping/yard equipment. And there might not be any nearby neighbors or power to run a camera.

[m2711c]

his complete colletion of powder magazines in mint condition and an unopened, unviewed vhs of Blizzard of Ahhh's, first edition.


dude's got treasures...

[Name Redacted]

Whoa, no need to litigate the details, I just mentioned something that was on my mind as I fantasize about having a country place. In an ideal world, I'd have some bikes out there, maybe SUPs and ski gear. Maybe some landscaping/yard equipment. And there might not be any nearby neighbors or power to run a camera.

Solar/battery powered cameras. Just sayin, it ain't that hard, at least not enough to not do it.

[Mazderati]

You could put together a greatest hits video of your shit getting ganked. As long as it's sunny outside.

[dan_pdx]

his complete colletion of powder magazines in mint condition and an unopened, unviewed vhs of Blizzard of Ahhh's, first edition.


dude's got treasures...

Sports. Illustrated swimsuit editions 1980-1996, worth dozens of dollars in eBay!

[AdironRider]

I sort of struggle with this idea of second homes suddenly being unachievable. Not necessarily with the fact that people think they are expensive per se, but rather with the notion that they weren't expensive either back in the 70s as if everyone had one. That was never the case.

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

^ Maybe, maybe not...

1 BR condo in the "dorm" at Magic was selling for $38K in 2014. That was achievable for just about anyone that really wanted to have it. Nowadays, that condo is selling for north of $150K. Less achievable but still within reach. My next door neighbors paid $42K for a 3 BR/2BA "chalet" in the village at Magic in 2001. I paid more than that for a Chevy Suburban in 2001. They did a $200K renovation in 2017 and current market would easily bring $475K for their place.

[muted reborn]

I sort of struggle with this idea of second homes suddenly being unachievable. Not necessarily with the fact that people think they are expensive per se, but rather with the notion that they weren't expensive either back in the 70s as if everyone had one. That was never the case.

"Never the case" for you and your location, sure. It was fairly common for city people in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan to have a cabin "Up North" and they were probably dirt cheap in the 70's -80's. I'd guess it would be easy to buy one at $25k - 'guess' being the key word. We had one, guessing it was around $35-50k, it's now torn done with three houses built in the 2000's replacing our one house. That's when shit got unaffordable IMO. In our case - guessing here - local town of West Bend grew bigly nearby and people needed more first homes.

That said, I'd like to read why so many people bought Up North decades ago, what prices really were, and how many people still have these second homes, which I'm sure are quite prevalent.

[plugboots]

Second/Vacation Homes

Well. It can be done. Was it really ever that easy to own a place a half an hour drive from the tram at Jackson? Kinda. Probably back before you could fly directly into Jackson Hole. And yes, I remember that.
If you really want a place within a two hour drive, (let’s say), from your primary residence, you just have to be a little more creative, and open to see the future.
People in these second home locations are constantly whining about the good old days and “The way it used to be”

well no shit

[AdironRider]

Two points. In 2014 Magic was an inch away from being tits up and pretty much everyone thought paying 40k for an old condo at a bankrupt ski area was a fools errand. 9 times out of 10 it would have been.

And in terms of buying a place up North, that still exists in plenty of places. I can buy a cabin in Maine right now for between 1-200k, which is the equivalent, or even cheaper comparatively, to 50k in the 70's when minimum wage was 2 bucks an hour.

I really think this is more of a cultural change where an off grid cabin or basic one room place in the woods is not what people are willing to buy or want. I don't want to shortchange that a second home isn't expensive, I just think it is has always been a thing for people of means and not something that was a middle class staple.