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  • goldenboy
    Jack's got my back
    • Jan 2005
    • 5381

    #1

    Supplements

    The "athletic performance in your 40's" thread is all over the place, so hopefully it's OK if I made a sister thread for this aspect of getting old... 99% percent of supplements seem like MLM bullshit, so it's hard to wade through what might actually be helpful. Right now I'm really interested in anti inflammatory stuff like turmeric, but is it best as a pill, tincture, or drink? How much is the right amount, does the cheap stuff work just as well, etc? How about that mushroom coffee stuff? Daily stuff like athletic greens?

    Whatcha got, mags?

    Edit- Also, why the hell didn't my spellcheck go off on that horrible misspelling?
    Last edited by goldenboy; 04-20-2023, 11:05 AM.
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  • Dantheman
    Registered User
    • Oct 2003
    • 19608

    #2
    Things with proven, non-negligible benefits in actual human studies:

    -Creatine monohydrate
    -Beta alanine
    -EPA/DHA
    -Vit D
    -Protein (as needed to hit 30 g/meal and 0.75-1 g/lb of BW per day)
    -Collagen (40+ only)

    Things with very promising animal model data that will probably translate to benefits for humans (mostly geezers, if you're under 40 don't bother):

    -NMN/NR
    -HLA
    -Glycine

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    • Cisco Kid
      Registered User
      • Sep 2010
      • 2827

      #3
      Buy the stuff with the word "Miracle" in the description.
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      • XXX-er
        Registered User
        • Mar 2008
        • 34296

        #4
        just cut out added sugar & eat not too much real food

        Magnesium Citrate WILL help me recover from big days of exercise
        Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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        • El Chupacabra
          pillowpants
          • Sep 2004
          • 21953

          #5
          Originally posted by Cisco Kid
          Buy the stuff with the word "Miracle" in the description.
          I've been taking Miracle-Gro for awhile now, and so far, nothing has sprouted.
          Originally posted by powder11
          if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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          • Grange
            Registered User
            • Oct 2003
            • 4428

            #6
            Magnesium glycinate, helps with relaxation especially after a hard night of martial arts training.
            Protein isolate, helps recovery after weight lifting.
            Apple Cider Vinegar, helps curb hunger pangs when fasting.

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            • Cruiser
              Sharp as a bowling ball.
              • Sep 2006
              • 8016

              #7
              I love that powdered black rhino horn. Just wish it wasn't quite so expensive
              Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
              Cletus: Duly noted.

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              • Self Jupiter
                Registered User
                • Feb 2015
                • 4724

                #8
                ^reminds me of when baseball players were being suspended for testing for Deer Antler Spray

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                • bennymac
                  Steezus Christ
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 12290

                  #9
                  Originally posted by XXX-er
                  just cut out added sugar & eat not too much real food

                  Magnesium Citrate WILL help me recover from big days of exercise
                  Surprised you didn’t suggest aquaseal

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                  • aanev
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 280

                    #10
                    Creatine, glucosamine, Vit. D3
                    occasionally collagen, mg, multivitamins

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                    • goldenboy
                      Jack's got my back
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 5381

                      #11
                      Perhaps a follow up question would be if anyone has been to a naturopathic doctor and gotten hooked up with 11 herbs and spices and thought it actually did anything.
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                      • Jax
                        Colorado
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 2937

                        #12
                        I only read a page of that other thread and agree it was all over the place. I've had issues with inflammation all of my life and it wasn't until the past decade have I really begun to learn what works for me, and to take the necessary steps (thanks to a major hospitalization). Everybody is different, though, so what works for one still will not work for others. Experiment and dial things in, it takes time.

                        What has worked for me:

                        -CBD full-spectrum tincture taken sublingually twice a day. I take at least 50mg in the morning and 50mg at night. Oftentimes I bump it up dosage to 200mg a day if I did something that will increase inflammation, like skiing all day, or if my allergies are getting really bad. I find the CBD works best for me, for my inflammation issues, of which I have many thanks to autoimmune stuff. For me, it's very subtle, but if I run out, I definitely notice the difference almost overnight. It's a game changer for me personally, but not cheap. I sleep much better using it as well. I also use a high-potency rub from same brand for any localized issues like knees, knuckles, shoulders where i tend to tweak things, or for bruising. It works for me.

                        -I put 1tbsp. turmeric powder on my eggs every morning, with black pepper added. I guess you need pepper and cholesterol/fat to make it effective. I like the taste, but many folks don't. I can't say I notice any difference using it or not, but I still take it almost daily in my food because there's so much information out there touting the benefits. I see no harm in adding it to my arsenal. I've never tried it in pill form.

                        -In addition to probiotic supplements + yogurt, I drink a night time tea supplement with PREbiotics. I've been using Teeccino brand, they have a few choices with mushroom as well. I can't say the tea helps with my overall inflammation issues, but it certainly helps with digestive stuff and helps keep things regular. I've found protecting my gut biome to be key. One of their flavors actually tastes similar to coffee, has same mouthfeel.

                        -an allergy test was eye-opening for small things that cause triggers. For me, the primary one was the coffee bean, (not caffeine). I know, shoot me. Eliminating the things that trigger even a slight immune response has cut down on certain inflammation issues for me, which is how I found the Teeccino brand stated above.

                        -I will say, almost entirely eliminating alcohol has also truly helped, though I sometimes cheat and have a beer. I've been getting better at buying 0.00% brands like Stella or Heineken lagers to keep in the après cooler that actually taste decent and just as good after a long day of beating myself up on a bike or on the hill. I wish Athletic made a 0.00 but they don't, plus their shit is more expensive than regular beer. I just feel better overall and have less inflammation issues without any booze, and I'm happier for it.

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                        • El Chupacabra
                          pillowpants
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 21953

                          #13
                          Anyone here take B12 for anything? Any negatives?

                          I'm going to try it, as I have problems with frequent canker sores, and Google says it may help. Can't find much of anything as far as a downside, other than it may do nothing.
                          Originally posted by powder11
                          if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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                          • CarlMega
                            wash, rinse, don't repeat
                            • May 2006
                            • 2359

                            #14
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                            • snapt
                              SQUIRREL
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 4071

                              #15
                              I cycle ashwagandha and find it beneficial for mental health stuff. I build up a tolerance very quickly so cycling is key.

                              I tried tumeric along with my RA meds and it didn’t do well with my stomach.

                              Collagen either helps with joint pain or is a good placebo. Try to work it in daily.

                              I do an apple cider vinegar pre/probiotic combo for gut health, I don’t know that I’ve noticed a difference but anything I can do to counteract long term steroid use on my stomach I try. Greek yogurt and kombucha are a staple too.

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