Alec Baldwin WTF

[The AD]

If the scene required him to fire the gun it certainly seems like--as an actor--he would fire the gun. I think it's a defense mechanism for Baldwin. He just can't bear the fact that he was the one who pulled the trigger and killed someone.

[CarlMega]

I think it's a defense mechanism for Baldwin. He just can't bear the fact that he was the one who pulled the trigger and killed someone.

I know it will be difficult for the hard-edge types in this thread but this^ PTSD type of revisioning of events is not uncommon. Being put in a position where you kill someone makes you a victim IMHO and lawd knows what sort of sanity safeguards your brain makes to keep the mental anguish at bay. Could it be a calculated, narrative crafted by a lawyer and a sociopath? Sure. But I'm not jumping there right off and there's a reason that eyewitness testimony is generally shit evidence.

[KQ]

If the scene required him to fire the gun it certainly seems like--as an actor--he would fire the gun. I think it's a defense mechanism for Baldwin. He just can't bear the fact that he was the one who pulled the trigger and killed someone.

Yup. Memory is a funny thing - it's not static and I'm sure that is what he has to tell himself so he can get up every day and put one foot in front of the other. It seems obvious to me from what I've heard and read that he had no intent and believed the gun was properly loaded with blanks.

[Danno]

I know it will be difficult for the hard-edge types in this thread but this^ PTSD type of revisioning of events is not uncommon. Being put in a position where you kill someone makes you a victim IMHO and lawd knows what sort of sanity safeguards your brain makes to keep the mental anguish at bay. Could it be a calculated, narrative crafted by a lawyer and a sociopath? Sure. But I'm not jumping there right off and there's a reason that eyewitness testimony is generally shit evidence.

Yep. Someone who experiences significant trauma is a terrible evaluator of what actually happened. I never forget reading a piece in the NYT by Jennifer Thompson, a rape victim who identified her attacker repeatedly, he was convicted, retried, convicted again. She was certain he was the man who raped her. Except he wasn't.

[MTT]

Yup. Memory is a funny thing - it's not static and I'm sure that is what he has to tell himself so he can get up every day and put one foot in front of the other. It seems obvious to me from what I've heard and read that he had no intent and believed the gun was properly loaded with blanks.

I don’t think he murdered. Her

I do know people human nature I think Baldwin was involved in using live rounds in “His Gun”

I would not be surprised if he had been bending and breaking many movie set safety rules. - to tragedy

I would not be surprised if the dumb ass was walking around in costume with the “Loaded”. 45 on his hip. Would you really be surprised if that comes out

[bennymac]

I don’t think he murdered. Her

I do know people human nature I think Baldwin was involved in using live rounds in “His Gun”

I would not be surprised if he had been bending and breaking many movie set safety rules. - to tragedy

I would not be surprised if the dumb ass was walking around in costume with the “Loaded”. 45 on his hip. Would you really be surprised if that comes out

Maybe consider sitting out all this speculation about firearm safety

[MakersTeleMark]

Maybe consider sitting out all this speculation about firearm safety

Gold.

[MTT]

Maybe consider sitting out all this speculation about firearm safety

Fuck you

[The AD]

I would not be surprised if the dumb ass was walking around in costume with the “Loaded”. 45 on his hip. Would you really be surprised if that comes out

I would, yes, if you're implying he knew the gun was loaded with live ammo. What possible reason would he have for carrying a loaded gun around a movie set?

[TNKen]

Could it be a calculated, narrative crafted by a lawyer and a sociopath?

Ya think?

There is a legal theory that is called "evolution testimony" which is founded on the brain's ability to rechannel your beliefs. For example, you watch your best friend run a red light and crash into another vehicle. Over time, because of your personal interests with your friend, your brain convinces yourself initially that the light might have been yellow, or that both parties may have been sitting on the delayed red. Over time, your brain solidifies your belief that your friend's light was, in fact, yellow, or even further, that your friend had the green light. Hence the fallacy in eye witness testimony over time.

The evolution becomes even more pronounced when you have a personal interest in the outcome.

Bottom line, as stated above, Baldwin is not a credible witness about anything related to the event.

Oh yeah, and it was a cross-draw, so definitely not "on his hip."

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

I don’t think he murdered. Her

I do know people human nature I think Baldwin was involved in using live rounds in “His Gun”

I would not be surprised if he had been bending and breaking many movie set safety rules. - to tragedy

I would not be surprised if the dumb ass was walking around in costume with the “Loaded”. 45 on his hip. Would you really be surprised if that comes out

It's a little early for this level of whatever you're on. Maybe consider logging off, straightening out and seeking help?

[MTT]

It's a little early for this level of whatever you're on. Maybe consider logging off, straightening out and seeking help?

Ohh man I really hit a nerve with the Baldwin fanboys

You can tell right away when you hit the bullseye around here

[The AD]

Dude, just stop...

[plugboots]

…and get professional help.

[SumJongGuy]

"I didn't pull the trigger." Idiot. It just magically went off.....

On a single action western gun, if you have the trigger pulled and cock the gun, when your thumb comes off the hammer spur, the hammer drops and the gun fires.

Yep. That’s one of the possibilities. Remember the complaints of accidental discharges in days prior.

There were cameras everywhere. Whatever happened it’s recorded somewhere

Baldwin is showing his arrogance. He should really keep his mouth shut. He does not control the narrative or the flow of information

He claims his finger was NEVER on or near the trigger. He says it was along the barrel not even in the hoop the whole time. If the gun was cocked.. I could see a jolt or faulty catch letting go of the hammer. If it wasn't cocked, then this narrative doesn't add up at all.

If the scene required him to fire the gun it certainly seems like--as an actor--he would fire the gun. I think it's a defense mechanism for Baldwin. He just can't bear the fact that he was the one who pulled the trigger and killed someone.

He says the scene did NOT call for a shot at all and his finger was NOT on the trigger at all. Let's go to the video and see?? The authorities already have the videos so I highly doubt he'd lie about something so easy to verify there.. unless he has total PTSD blocking out what he actually did..