It's Not a Bike Accident When a Car Hits a Rider

[Dexter Rutecki]

What about when you're driving and you get hit by a cyclist? Has happened twice to me (once not a big deal, the other had the cyclist flat out on the pavement behind me after he slammed into the back of my car--I had to stop abruptly because of a car in front of me and the cyclist hadn't been paying attention to what was in front of him, which was my car).

When I see cyclists on the ground following an incident with a car I tend to assume they were doing some of the crazy shit they do all the time--running lights without even looking for oncoming traffic (they just assume the cars will give way), riding against traffic, weaving between cars and getting ahead of them at traffic lights. It's too bad cyclists are so exposed, but I usually can't go two minutes in the street without seeing at least one (and usually a few) doing something dumb. But it's just accepted that that's how they operate (probably 50% or more are delivery guys and using e-bikes, but they're still on bicycles).

[Beaver]

90% of road bikers near me deserve to get hit. Fuck them and their entitled clueless attitude. Yeh, riding on a mountain pass road with no shoulder during commute time taking up the middle of the lane or 2-3 abreast on blind corners. Go fuck yourself and die.

You are a fucking cunt.

[highangle]

Is there a lot of those?

Not that many giving their dehydrated kids CTE so they can celebrate their athleticism, but every sunny spell brings a whole new crew of spandex physics deniers wobbling down the fog lines with the diesel pushers and super B-train doubles, too totally into themselves, their tattoos, and their caloric burn rate to ride their road bikes on the fucking paved bike paths.

Makes a person want a train horn...

[Dexter Rutecki]

BTW, think we took a wrong turn on the way to this thread: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...*king-Cyclists

[highangle]

Then it's a homeless crackhead going the wrong way in the bike lane on a stolen mountain bike.

Fkn Rockhoppers!

[LongShortLong]

90% of road bikers near me deserve to get hit. Fuck them and their entitled clueless attitude. Yeh, riding on a mountain pass road with no shoulder during commute time taking up the middle of the lane or 2-3 abreast on blind corners. Go fuck yourself and die.

There oughta be a jail cell for drivers like this. Parole hearing in 25.

[54-46]

Bunch of fucking babies. The people on bikes are…people, and they getting killed because of idiots and assholes like some of you this thread.

If you get hit carrying your skis in the ski hill parking lot by some idiot turning on their phone, is it a skiing accident?

[smartyiak]

WHOA WHOA WHOA….are you seriously suggesting I wait…for like 1.5 minutes until the road is clear? I got fucking places to be! Fuck that guy on his bike following the traffic laws….he shouldn’t be there b/c, you know, I’M THERE AND I GOT PLACES TO BE!!!

PS: lots of places, like Delaware…and the Idaho stop…a cyclist is following the law if they treat a stop sign as a yield and a red light as a stop sign…but again FUCK THAT LAW….I GOT PLACES TO BE!

Also: any shitbag that would intentionally harm other humans beings (whether pedestrians, bikes, or other modes of transport), deserves as much prison time as humanly possible….they’re people for fuck sakes.


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[Peruvian]

WHOA WHOA WHOA….are you seriously suggesting I wait…for like 1.5 minutes until the road is clear? I got fucking places to be! Fuck that guy on his bike following the traffic laws….he shouldn’t be there b/c, you know, I’M THERE AND I GOT PLACES TO BE!!!

PS: lots of places, like Delaware…and the Idaho stop…a cyclist is following the law if they treat a stop sign as a yield and a red light as a stop sign…but again FUCK THAT LAW….I GOT PLACES TO BE!

Also: any shitbag that would intentionally harm other humans beings (whether pedestrians, bikes, or other modes of transport), deserves as much prison time as humanly possible….they’re people for fuck sakes.


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Thank you, smartyjack. The fact is that the vehicle driver just has to slow down and then can regain momentum with the slightest effort of pushing the throttle pedal is enough to have drivers reconsider the possibility of seriously injuring or killing a cyclist.

MTM - I hope that was a terrible joke and you never have to live with the guilt of taking away someone's father, mother, sibling, etc. due to your selfish actions behind the wheel.

[Dexter Rutecki]

I can't be the only one thinking this is the most predictable thread type we have. If you fed the 'cyclists suck' thread into an AI it could have produced this new thread, no problem,

I think the reasons for these feelings on both sides are pretty obvious...people aren't good at understanding where others are coming from. Yes, there are total assholes cyclists who like to assert themselves on the road by making life difficult for drivers (cyclist boosters: I understand 'making life difficult' is a relative term and doesn't compare to endangering someone). Yes, there are total asshole drivers who put cyclists in jeopardy by driving like idiots--sometimes even intentionally. But I think we could help both sides if everyone acknowledged that the entitled cyclist (or oblivious cyclist, as sometimes they clearly have no idea how they're impacting others) mentality fosters some of this anger, just as the actions of the shitty driver make cyclists hate drivers in general. Something should be done about dickhead cyclists and dangerous drivers, but the rest of us don't need to adopt the most radical positions as a result of those two groups. (Getting a little Rodney King here, but seriously...and it does seem like there's a little more rage here than there should be.)

[Timberridge]

I can't be the only one thinking this is the most predictable thread type we have. If you fed the 'cyclists suck' thread into an AI it could have produced this new thread, no problem,

You're seriously blowing my mind here Dexter. You saying that some of the stuff posted in the PR is generated by AI?

[Peruvian]

Yes, there are total assholes cyclists who like to assert themselves on the road by making life difficult for drivers (cyclist boosters: I understand 'making life difficult' is a relative term and doesn't compare to endangering someone). Yes, there are total asshole drivers who put cyclists in jeopardy by driving like idiots--sometimes even intentionally.

Close, but in most states and in most circumstances cyclists have as much right to use the roadway as a vehicle. In other words, legally I can ride my bike down the middle of the lane without concern for vehicles getting backed up behind me. If I move over at all to provide some space for a vehicle to pass me, I am already being polite and making it easier for the drivers. There are many times that 'taking the lane' and riding in the middle of the road (in towns and cities for example) is the safest option available to the cyclist to avoid getting doored (hit by someone exiting a parked vehicle), squeezed to the curb by a passing car, etc.

[Dexter Rutecki]

You're seriously blowing my mind here Dexter. You saying that some of the stuff posted in the PR is generated by AI?

I've been pretty sure for years that you're an AI, so yeah, I guess I am. It would save us a fuckload of time if we could just get AI to hammer out these posts, anyway.

[Timberridge]

Timberridge 9000 has read your post and will respond shortly.

[JimmyCarter]

You're seriously blowing my mind here Dexter. You saying that some of the stuff posted in the PR is generated by AI?

If it weren't for AI, we'd have no I at all