Wine Geekery

[neufox47]

For anyone interested in the wine market, you should check out the State of the Industry, from Rob McMillan

https://www.svb.com/globalassets/trendsandinsights/reports/wine/sotwi-2021/svb-state-of-the-wine-industry-report-2021.pdf

On Supply:

When 2020 totals are calculated, we are guessing that California will have crushed 3.3 million tons, which would be the smallest harvest since 2011. The Pacific Northwest harvests in both Oregon and Washington will also come in smaller than normal.
• Supply in the West is largely balanced going into 2021, but overall growth rates in sales will still be modest, and some acres of vines will still need to be removed in California and Washington in particular in order to sustain the balance.
• Grape and bulk prices will stabilize at lower levels than we’ve seen in the past five years. Buyers will remain cautious on price.
• California vineyard prices in premium regions will remain lower than their prior high points, flattening in the best areas and softening in secondary regions.

Sounds like decent news for consumers but 2020 had a harvest of 3.9 million tons. A 15% decrease.


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[PNWbrit]

Then there's France

At least a third of French wine production worth almost €2bn (£1.7bn) in sales will be lost this year after rare freezing temperatures devastated many vines and fruit crops across France, raising concerns over the climate crisis.

[neufox47]

Then there's France

At least a third of French wine production worth almost €2bn (£1.7bn) in sales will be lost this year after rare freezing temperatures devastated many vines and fruit crops across France, raising concerns over the climate crisis.

That’s nuts. Never heard of them using “candles” to protect grapes from freezing.

[XXX-er]

I been making the kit wines for > 20 yars, 4 kits a year is 120 bottles for > 20 years is like 2500 bottles @ 4$ a bottle by my cocktail napkin math

So I'm gettn out of the bidness, cuz I can afford to burn off more of the pension checks by buying wine instead of making it

hopefuly my night time rants on TGR will not suffer but kit wine made me what i am today

[liv2ski]

Hah, my dad use to make his own wine

[skaredshtles]

This is better than the 2017:

[Buster Highmen]

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Buster or anyone other Pinot fans, you familiar with this Pinot at all? I got it as a gift and debating how long to store. Limited info, general consensus is it’s too young now, and is capable of keeping for “decades”. Prime drinking window 2025-2030? https://www.domaineserene.com/produc...-PN-2017-750ml

I'm not familiar with that particular bottling, but I like Domain Serene a lot. Their style has both a little jam as well as the tannins that makes a great balance.

[Buster Highmen]

Anybody try any of this? The 100 years of wine making drew me in and I upgraded from Vella.

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, and yeah, that is what I drink.

Some people had us over for dinner and they knew I liked pinot, but they whipped out a Mogen David which they later admitted to see what my reaction would be.

I held out my glass for a pour, but they withdrew the MD and brought out some other wine.

Evidently I passed the test. Now we drink and have dinner regularly. Great folks.

[Buster Highmen]

I remember with clarity my wine epiphany.
I didn't normally drink wine, sure I'd have a cup every now and then, but it wasn't really a focus for me.

Then some friends took me to a nice restaurant in Portland, Plainfield Mayurs, circa 1991, which was cited in Wine Spectator as having an impressive wine list.

My friend orders a $40 dollar bottle of 1986 Drouhin Bonnes Mares. I scoffed at the price and kept my opinion to myself about it. The sommelier brought out a weird contraption that held the bottle with a crank that slowly tilted it to pour glasses.

Drinking that wine blew my mind, I could not believe how good it was. All the rich sweetness of welches wrapped up in this bizarre tobaccowy, meat juice, dry grape skin spectra, layers and layers of flavors.

It sent me. I have never recovered.

[skifishbum]

Anybody try any of this? The 100 years of wine making drew me in and I upgraded from Vella.

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, and yeah, that is what I drink.

i didnt wants to goober up your important day traders thread
but i so gots your franzia cup covered
gold rimmed ticker style

[Wrecked]

This is better than the 2017:

Been to that winery. It was pretty cool.

So you remember those commercials for Olive Garden where they claim their chefs spend 2 weeks in Italy training? Turns out they actually do this. And this winery is where they do it. So bizarre to walk up to a winery in siena and see the Olive Garden logo on the side of the building.

[skaredshtles]

Been to that winery. It was pretty cool.

So you remember those commercials for Olive Garden where they claim their chefs spend 2 weeks in Italy training? Turns out they actually do this. And this winery is where they do it. So bizarre to walk up to a winery in siena and see the Olive Garden logo on the side of the building.

My wife and I also visited this winery on our honeymoon in 2000. Small goddam world...

I believe our trip must have pre-dated the Olive Garden nonsense, as I don't remember any logo.

[Wrecked]

It was my honeymoon as well… 2017

[warthog]

This is one of the better $45 bottles that I have had recently.
8 Years in the Desert

[XXX-er]

Hah, my dad use to make his own wine

kit wine is not really making your own wine, all you are doing is thro-ing some water in with the concentrate, get the yeast going, 8 week later you got about a 10$ bottle of wine for 4 $ so I would say its > a chateau cardboard, also kit wine has much less sulphates so if yer sensitive to sulphates it might be better for ya/ less headaches. IME the reds were not worth making but the whites were ok also buy the best cuz you gotta drink it

are you dentists drinking 40$ a bottle wines every night or do you have an every day win, you know

for when you are not showing off to other dentists ?