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  • Dantheman
    Registered User
    • Oct 2003
    • 19619

    #46
    Originally posted by nickwm21
    Seriously, the most underrated tool…. I have a two small grass areas. I’m done cutting before my neighbor finishes laying out the extension for his corded mower… and he has a similar amount of grass.
    Yep, always ready to go, self-mulching, quiet, and cut like a scalpel when they're sharp. I'll concede that they do suck around edges.

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    • MontuckyFried
      Lone Star Jong
      • Sep 2010
      • 12602

      #47
      Originally posted by Dantheman
      I'll concede that they do suck around edges.
      No problem. After he's done mowing, that's when you hand your hungover kid a pair of scissors to finish the edges.

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      • Kevo
        No longer as nomadic
        • Apr 2006
        • 4003

        #48
        @Rideit- I have the two stage Ego snowblower that you are asking about. I like it a lot. It has plenty of power for my small driveway. I could fit 4 cars on my driveway- it's like a generic suburban driveway for a 2 car garage.

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        • rideit
          Mellowing Like Vinegar
          • Nov 2005
          • 36557

          #49
          Wifey gave the green light, we are getting it. Did you have it here this last Febuary? I forget...
          Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident

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          • uglymoney
            Registered User
            • Jul 2005
            • 8174

            #50
            Originally posted by YourMomJustCalled
            I had the EGO mower for about a week and while it was an impressive piece of equipment, the cut was uneven and it didn't pick up shit. I'll fill the bag on my Snapper 3 times to the EGOs once. After reading the reviews, I concluded it was mostly due to the lightness of the blade as compared to the gas powered options. I sold it on the classifieds. Just last Friday I picked up the new Toro 60V model. The consensus was that it had a nearly full size/weight blade and while my lawn looked better, it also didn't pick up shit.

            Wanna buy it

            As for batteries on ice, I have a little single stage SnowJoe and a little power shovel. The SnowJoe does fairly well until it warms up and then the chute frequently clogs. The shovel is tits. No battery related issues with either of them. FWIW, I'll usually just reach for the 2 Cycle Toro. It's only 2 years younger than I am, but it'll still throw shit across the road.




            FWIW, Most of the two stage battery units that I've checked out have been really poorly made.
            Just stop bagging your grass...better for your yard and then you can keep the electric mower. Why do people think they should pick up their grass clippings?

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            • YourMomJustCalled
              Not your father's Olds.
              • Apr 2009
              • 2663

              #51
              Originally posted by uglymoney
              Just stop bagging your grass...better for your yard and then you can keep the electric mower. Why do people think they should pick up their grass clippings?
              I bag because if I don't my lawn gets chock full of thatch and dead grass.
              http://instagram.com/thewideeye

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              • skaredshtles
                Registered User
                • Dec 2016
                • 15395

                #52
                Originally posted by Dantheman
                Yep, always ready to go, self-mulching, quiet, and cut like a scalpel when they're sharp. I'll concede that they do suck around edges.
                I had one of those when I was younger... but they suck if you neglect the lawn. They're pretty nice if you keep the lawn in nice condition.

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                • skaredshtles
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2016
                  • 15395

                  #53
                  Originally posted by YourMomJustCalled
                  I bag because if I don't my lawn gets chock full of thatch and dead grass.
                  Interesting... I've been mulching our grass for a couple decades and have not run into said issues. Guess I'm lucky.

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                  • uglymoney
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 8174

                    #54
                    From Scotts...Contrary to a popular lawn myth, leaving clippings on the lawn does not cause thatch, which is a layer of partially decomposed grass-plant parts between the soil and live grass. Grass clippings are mostly water, so as long as you mow regularly at the right height, they will break down and disappear rapidly.

                    Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk

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                    • YourMomJustCalled
                      Not your father's Olds.
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 2663

                      #55
                      Originally posted by uglymoney
                      From Scotts...Contrary to a popular lawn myth, leaving clippings on the lawn does not cause thatch, which is a layer of partially decomposed grass-plant parts between the soil and live grass. Grass clippings are mostly water, so as long as you mow regularly at the right height, they will break down and disappear rapidly.

                      Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk
                      You're coming by to detach my lawn, right?
                      http://instagram.com/thewideeye

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                      • uglymoney
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 8174

                        #56
                        Originally posted by YourMomJustCalled
                        You're coming by to detach my lawn, right?
                        I have neighbors that bag and their yards look like shit compared to mine and I probably put in less than half the work they do.

                        I don't live in SLC though so ymmv. I live in a genuine midwest shithole where it is either full on drought or raining for days on end.

                        Aerate your yard in the fall. Water deeply if you irrigate. Limit herbicide application to late fall. Use slow release nitrogen and limit fertilizer application. Mulching your clippings instead of bagging is the equivalent of 1 synthetic fertilizer application annually. Do these things and you'll have a living yard that will easily break down the clippings.

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                        • Kevo
                          No longer as nomadic
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 4003

                          #57
                          Originally posted by rideit
                          Wifey gave the green light, we are getting it. Did you have it here this last Febuary? I forget...
                          Yep! It worked very well for me this past winter, including February with all the snow. It was awesome never having to worry about having gas and it fires up the first time I press the button. It's sweet.

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                          • k2skier112
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 8009

                            #58
                            Originally posted by brutah
                            Well despite those regulations gasoline-powered lawn and garden equipment still account for a lot of air pollution. And most of us are likely using equipment from days before regulation or before 2012 when those regulations hit phase 3. Not to mention the amount of gas and oil that is spilled while filling these machines. My mower is probably 15 years old and my tiller is a hand me down from my father-in-law who likely purchased it in the 90s.

                            Here are a few facts I was able to find with a quick google search:

                            "Results: In 2011, approximately 26.7 million tons of
                            pollutants were emitted by GLGE (gas-powered lawn and garden equipment) (VOC=461,800; CO=5,793,200; NOx=68,500, PM10=20,700;
                            CO2=20,382,400), accounting for 24%−45% of all nonroad gasoline emissions. Gasoline-powered
                            landscape maintenance equipment (GLME; leaf blowers/vacuums, and trimmers, edgers, brush cutters)
                            accounted for 43% of VOCs and around 50% of fine PM. Two-stroke engines were responsible for the
                            vast majority of fine PM from GLME. State data (California, New York, Texas, Illinois, and Florida),
                            2018 projections, and additional comparisons are presented. Methodological issues are discussed.
                            Conclusions: GLGE accounts for a major portion of US nonroad gasoline emissions. Two-stroke
                            engines are an important source of VOCs and criteria pollutants. " taken from the abstract of this EPA study published in 9/2015: https://www.epa.gov/sites/production...ents/banks.pdf

                            From this website: https://www.peoplepoweredmachines.co...nvironment.htm

                            "EPA Statistics: Gas Mowers represent 5% of U.S. Air Pollution

                            Fact: According to the EPA, one gas mower spews 88 lbs. of the greenhouse gas CO2, and 34 lbs. of other pollutants into the air every year.

                            Fact: Over 17 million gallons of gas are spilled each year refueling lawn and garden equipment – more oil than was spilled by the Exxon Valdez.

                            FACT: Americans burn 800 million gallons of gas each year trimming their grassy yards, according to the EPA

                            FACT: One gas mower running for an hour emits the same amount of pollutants as eight new cars driving 55 mph for the same amount of time, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists"

                            So why they may be regulated now, they account for a lot of air pollution.

                            The main point I was trying to make was that GLGE are bad for the environment and as skiers we should be looking for cleaner solutions. Yes, I understand that electricity still likely comes from fossil fuels but those industries are heavily regulated, whereas, garden and lawn equipment are not. Electric powered lawn and garden equipment work great as many here can attest to and its better for the environment. That's a win-win in my book.
                            FYI, the website you posted is highly biased against gas powered equipment

                            Yup. Anything that uses petroleum for fuel will emit hydrocarbons into the atmosphere. But you did say it wasn't regulated, it is, very tho

                            When you look at the big picture, the amount of pollution form homeowners L&G equipment is miniscule. How many gallons of gas does the average person use in L&G equipment vs their car? The average person will still emit more carbon/pollution in a month or 2 by driving a car than a year of all their gas powered L&G tools.
                            3 days of cars driving in the USA will burn more gas than a year of all L&G equipment

                            The amount of pollution to generate electricity is hudge

                            Sources of greenhouse gas emissions, inculding electricity production, tranportation, industry, agriculture, and forestry.


                            Another thing to look at is manufacturing pollution. My 2 cycle LawnBoy was made in 1995 and will last at least another 15 years. I burn about 1.5-2 gallons of gas a year.
                            If your concern is carbon emissions, you should be pushing a reel mower, and not using a mower that chops up salmon, burns nat gas or coal and uses heavy metals in the batteries, just sayin"...

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                            • mitanokaseifu
                              Registered User
                              • Nov 2019
                              • 60

                              #59
                              Plan on getting a battery string trimmer. The vibration and noise of the gas model under your armpit drives me insane. Then you have to reload strings all the time (have the quick release head), restarting the gas sucks for that. Some small engines are pretty shitty too, although my Echo stuff has been pretty stout. I don’t think battery snowblowers would work that well. Snowblowers should be borderline heavy equipment to work.

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                              • jackstraw
                                Irie
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 9771

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Meadow Skipper
                                I got a battery pole saw last year, and I really dig it. Milwaukee, because I’m all vested in their battery system - drill, impact driver, oscillating tool, leaf blower (dig it), string trimmer (dig it), and boom box ( ). If they come out with a lawn mower I’m probably in.

                                https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...t=#post5977658
                                They will come out with a mower. They have an upright vacuum now.

                                I have multiple Milwaukee 18v batteries in different amp hour configurations. It's convenient for weight, tool, and job to be done. Aside from drills and saws, I have the chainsaw and a trimmer/hedger in-one. It also will fit a pole saw. They all work fine for me.

                                The milw blower is just ok from what I've heard. Depends on your needs I guess. With that said, Milw is running a promo next month where they're combining a chainsaw and blower into one package deal. Pretty sure only available at trade stores, no big box places.

                                Batteries - voltage vs amp hrs

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