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Fucking Arsenal.
That is all.
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Fuck this superleague and every team ownership that proposed it. Fucking American owners most of em and it sucks.
Been supporting Manchester United since 93, may be in need of a new club. thinking Villa at the moment..Comment
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Hey, it’s nice they let the Washington Generals errrrr Arsenal in.Comment
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American owners? It's more like emirates and oligarch league. And jp Morgan money league.
Interestingly the current 9th of the premiere league thinks of themselves as "one of Europe's top teams".
And no qualifications needed for the league. Well except being rich and greedy.
Luckily I'm only a fan of the fc cologne. 2nd German league here we come.It's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.Comment
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Most of them?Fuck this superleague and every team ownership that proposed it. Fucking American owners most of em and it sucks.
Been supporting Manchester United since 93, may be in need of a new club. thinking Villa at the moment..
I can see Real, Barcelona and Bayern pulling out due to fan ownership and the thing going off the rails.
Since 93? Wow.
Isn't it just three teams with American owners?Originally posted by Downbound TrainComment
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Might as well start a general Footy/Soccer thread
garbageI didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.Comment
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It is 3 of the PL teams with US owners, but this whole thing reeks of Ed Woodward/ Glazers. Ed Woodward joined JP Morgan in 1999. Woodward helped the Glazer acquire ( and saddle with debt) Man Utd in 2005. Woodwards former employees @ JP Morgan are the ( lent) money behind this Super league.
Under Woodward United have been a stunning commercial Success and declined on the pitch. This league is all about a commercial reward and nothing about football for real.
( I had just read the Guardian piece " Americans are ruining football" when I posted so that was top of mindComment
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Can't remember where I read it but it was reported Bayern, Dortmund, and Porto all declined. I wonder if any other "big" clubs declined.
It's only three teams with American owners but the semi-closed league format is very American.Comment
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EVERTONFuck this superleague and every team ownership that proposed it. Fucking American owners most of em and it sucks.
Been supporting Manchester United since 93, may be in need of a new club. thinking Villa at the moment..Comment
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Thanks for explaining English football to me....
The NYT had a realistic assessment on the subject.
This very thing was discussed as a future possibility when the premier league was founded. (I was at a bunch of the meetings) but that was before you were a Man U fan.
The UK government today seem determined to shut down the English clubs from participating in this. That combined with suggestions of players facing WC and Euro bans... it's not going anywhere other than as a money grab from UEFA for Champions League income.Originally posted by Downbound TrainComment
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Bayern doesn't seem willing to join (or at least commit to joining) at the moment, so that's a big hit to the league ever taking off.
I'm not sure about Barcelona, but it would take a LOT from the fans at RM to make them back down now. Florentino Perez seems to be the mastermind behind the whole ESL and he just got re-elected to a new term as RM president until 2025.
The incentives for the Spanish giants is a bit different too. There's no real worry with either of Barca or Madrid missing the Champions League like some of the English (and Italian) participants. I think both of them see the writing on the wall that they won't be able to compete in perpetuity with teams that are owned by extremely wealthy backers and are trying to sure up their revenue stream to compete and maintain their position in the hierarchy.
As to how I feel about it personally: One one hand, I love seeing small teams make Cinderella runs, even if they haven't actually won the Champs League since Porto did it almost 20 years ago. On the other, I really hate EUFA/FIFA and the Spanish Liga leadership. My ideal situation is EUFA/FIFA suing to stop the ESL and getting just wrecked by Florentino and the clubs in court, but the ESL either flopping due to lack of fan support or eventually just basically becoming what the Champions League has been over the past few years.Comment
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The modern more than just champions version of the cup isn’t that old, kinda silly to pretend it was ever more than just “the best”.Comment
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Observations from opening weekend in the MLS?Comment
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My observation was that I didn't realize it happened.
I was really into it when I lived in DC and the (grubbier) tailgates before games were just about my favorite space in DC. Since moving away, though, I haven't been able to muster the same enthusiasm. I was hoping that Vegas would get one of the expansion franchises during the last round, but no luck. I do plan to go support the USL team once things are more back to normal. I should try to get into watching some more MLS though and maybe catch a game when I'm in LA sometime.Comment
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