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  • natty dread
    dread-free since '99
    • Nov 2003
    • 2623

    #1

    Chris Hitchens was right

    March 5, 2013
    Mother Teresa was 'anything but a saint,' new Canadian study finds
    By ADRIANA BARTON
    In a study to be published this month in Religieuses, a French-language journal of studies in religion and sciences, they suggest the nun's approach to caring for the sick was to glorify human suffering instead of relieving it

    Mother Teresa may be synonymous with selflessness, but according to a team of Canadian researchers, the Catholic nun was "anything but a saint," the Times of India [http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...vatican-study] reports.

    In a study to be published this month in Religieuses, a French-language journal of studies in religion and sciences, they suggest the nun's approach to caring for the sick was to glorify human suffering instead of relieving it.

    Mother Teresa was lavish with her prayers, but penny-pinching with the wealth amassed by her foundation, according to Serge Larivée and Genevieve Chenard from the University of Montreal's department of psychoeducation, and Carole Sénéchal of the University of Ottawa's faculty of education.

    The beatification of Mother Teresa, which the Vatican completed in October, 2003, is the last step before sainthood.

    But according to Larivée and colleagues, the Vatican turned a blind eye to Mother Teresa's "rather dubious way of caring for the sick, her questionable political contacts, her suspicious management of the enormous sums of money she received, and her overly dogmatic views regarding ... abortion, contraception and divorce."

    Mother Teresa believed the sick must suffer like Christ on the cross [http://www.nouvelles.umontreal.ca/ud...-a-saint.html], they suggest.

    "There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ's Passion. The world gains much from their suffering," the journalist Christopher Hitchens reported her as saying.

    (Hitchens referred to her as "a fanaticist, a fundamentalist and a fraud." [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl8mdnuuse4])

    The study authors note that doctors visiting many of the 517 "homes for the dying" run by Mother Teresa observed unhygienic conditions and a shortage of actual care, food and painkillers. Lack of funds were no explanation, since Mother Teresa's order of the Missionaries of Charity had raised hundreds of millions in aid money. When the nun herself was in need of medical treatment, "she received it in a modern American hospital," they point out.

    According to Larivée and colleagues, Mother Teresa's image of altruism is a myth. Even so, he acknowledges the power of her extraordinary reputation.

    "It is likely that she has inspired many humanitarian workers whose actions have truly relieved the suffering of the destitute and addressed the causes of poverty and isolation," he said. "Nevertheless, the media coverage of Mother Teresa could have been a little more rigorous."

    In death, as in life, there's no rest for the weary.
  • iceman
    Funky But Chic
    • Sep 2001
    • 49302

    #2
    I was hoping that you were saying that smoking and drinking scotch until you keel over had been recognized as a wise course of action.

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    • DasBlunt
      Pow Surfing for the win.
      • Feb 2010
      • 9354

      #3
      I would have liked to have seen more rigorous investigation for this "study" and article. She was a missionary first, a nun (not a doctor), and her order was running a huge number of missionaries and terminal care in third world countries. They were poorly organized and in general she was taking orders from someone else. She was not running the show nor managing the money, as all nuns do not run anything, basically.

      Media whores. Hitchens was a cool dude, but just another media whore.
      Terje was right.

      "We're all kooks to somebody else." -Shelby Menzel

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      • flowing alpy
        trenchman
        • Feb 2010
        • 4545

        #4
        at least she didn't take PED's
        .

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        • PNWbrit
          No I'm not an Australian
          • Dec 2003
          • 33930

          #5
          Originally posted by flowing alpy
          at least she didn't take PED's
          Doesn't Hitchen's Kissinger book mention he was on HGH?

          Although I would have thought you'd have to actually be human for it to work?
          Originally posted by Downbound Train
          And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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          • My Pet Powder Goat
            <--- FEED ME!!
            • Dec 2007
            • 11491

            #6
            Originally posted by DasBlunt
            I would have liked to have seen more rigorous investigation for this "study" and article. She was a missionary first, a nun (not a doctor), and her order was running a huge number of missionaries and terminal care in third world countries. They were poorly organized and in general she was taking orders from someone else. She was not running the show nor managing the money, as all nuns do not run anything, basically.

            Media whores. Hitchens was a cool dude, but just another media whore.
            You're a good catholic, eh?
            Originally posted by Hohes
            I couldn't give a fuck, but today I am procrastinating so TGR is my filler.
            Originally posted by skifishbum
            faceshots are a powerful currency
            get paid

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            • ate'em
              Registered User
              • Jul 2012
              • 465

              #7
              what's the opposite of the pot calling the kettle black???

              the paedophile pope granting someone sainthood.

              i can only hope to go to hell if these guys run heaven.

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              • Benny Profane
                Banned
                • Oct 2003
                • 50490

                #8
                Jesus.. Mother Theresa. Who's next on the list? Derek Jeter?

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                • stfu&gbtw
                  Cultural Misappropriator
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7390

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Benny Profane
                  Jesus.. Mother Theresa. Who's next on the list? Derek Jeter?
                  I heard he farted in a restaurant once.
                  Originally posted by Hugh Conway
                  Hugh Conway sucks
                  Originally posted by Meadow Skipper
                  I guess stfu might be right about steel toed boots
                  Originally posted by pedoherp69
                  I know actual transpeople.
                  Originally posted by rokjoxx
                  We is got a good military, maybe cause some kids get to shooting sports early here.

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                  • DasBlunt
                    Pow Surfing for the win.
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 9354

                    #10
                    Originally posted by My Pet Powder Goat
                    You're a good catholic, eh?
                    No, but having travelled most of the planet, I can assure you the twisted perspective of the article is skewed towards much more modernity of order, than any actual situation she was involved in. The expectations the premise supposes (equal and respectful health conditions), is like saying everyone in Africa needs an X-ray and a MRI for a lung infection, regardless if they are starving to death.
                    Terje was right.

                    "We're all kooks to somebody else." -Shelby Menzel

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                    • Big Steve
                      mere tourist
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 13239

                      #11
                      Nothing new here. I read the book when it first came out.

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                      • My Pet Powder Goat
                        <--- FEED ME!!
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 11491

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DasBlunt
                        No, but having travelled most of the planet, I can assure you the twisted perspective of the article is skewed towards much more modernity of order, than any actual situation she was involved in. The expectations the premise supposes (equal and respectful health conditions), is like saying everyone in Africa needs an X-ray and a MRI for a lung infection, regardless if they are starving to death.
                        WTF are you talking about? I suggest you keep to giving creepy relationship advice and apologizing for pederass priest.
                        Originally posted by Hohes
                        I couldn't give a fuck, but today I am procrastinating so TGR is my filler.
                        Originally posted by skifishbum
                        faceshots are a powerful currency
                        get paid

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                        • DasBlunt
                          Pow Surfing for the win.
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 9354

                          #13
                          Dude, she a was a nun and a talking head, nothing more. Hitch used the talking head part to his excess, pun intended on "excess". rock on.
                          Terje was right.

                          "We're all kooks to somebody else." -Shelby Menzel

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                          • PNWbrit
                            No I'm not an Australian
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 33930

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DasBlunt
                            NI can assure you the twisted perspective of the article
                            For fucks sake man just don't read Hitchens on Lhamo Dondrub. It'll put you right off your yoga/donations
                            Originally posted by Downbound Train
                            And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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                            • DasBlunt
                              Pow Surfing for the win.
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 9354

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PNWbrit
                              For fucks sake man just don't read Hitchens on Lhamo Dondrub. It'll put you right off your yoga/donations
                              Every perspective is unique, eh? Even the twisted ones.

                              While the truth is most often hidden behind the rhetoric, guys like Hitch were cool for helping you see the worst potential of things, but those "things" and reality were much more complicated and not absolute. Hindsight is so different and Hitch was one of the masters of history's hindsight, or "history's ass".
                              Terje was right.

                              "We're all kooks to somebody else." -Shelby Menzel

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