SSU insolvency and the bike industry generally

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  • smmokan
    Registered User
    • Apr 2004
    • 15697

    #151
    Rapha is funded by Walton money, there’s no way they’ll close up shop. Same with Allied.
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    • Canada1
      Registered User
      • Aug 2010
      • 1928

      #152
      A few thoughts from my time with Venture money people.

      There is alot of conversation and communication with your CFO. They are letting him climb the rope and deliver what was promised. He and the CEO will be replaced with a team that has done the same thing at five other underperforming investments they've had in the past if they can't deliver. So, if the communication is breaking down, it is because the team that is there is failing and attempting to blame the new owners. Most deals have a clear expectation of performance post sale and e everyone attempts to protect their good people when they take the bucket of money.
      I'm sorry your going through this. I've been through buy outs three times and it can make a place you loved to work an insufferable backstabbing cess pool.
      If you see the writing on the wall, get out early. Loyalty is not rewarded. If you want recognition for staying, when you have a job lined up, get a stay bonus in writing from the ownership group. Not the company they can bankrupt and walk from. Most of you will probably be in roles they are unwilling to do this with, which tells you everything you need to know,

      I'm sorry. Good luck.
      Last edited by Canada1; 04-26-2024, 07:41 AM. Reason: Because I write like a four year old

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      • grabtindy
        Registered User
        • Feb 2007
        • 604

        #153
        Cycling businesses, if not independent, are typically private equity backed rather than venture, but your advice applies even more so to PE owned businesses. PE is all about free cash flow, so they are ruthless protecting margins. If sales are down costs will be cut to preserve margin and headcount is usualy the easiest way to do it. If you do stay, expect to be asked to do "more with less", ie the work of the folks they just let go is now your job.

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        • Eluder
          Hack Master
          • Oct 2008
          • 4863

          #154
          A bit of a shimmer? https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/st...try-post-covid
          a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort

          Formerly Rludes025

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          • TBS
            Bearded Sweater Model
            • Oct 2004
            • 17066

            #155
            ^^^Yup, my buddy who owns the LBS says same thing - COVID overstock is about flushed from the supply chain and order cycles are reasonable. Also sez to expect some great deals on lightly-used high-end bikes from the local destination resort.

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            • Skistack
              Registered User
              • Feb 2011
              • 2660

              #156
              DC Rainmaker has a good article on the Stages implosion.


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              • muted reborn
                Registered User
                • Apr 2021
                • 3520

                #157
                You guys read articles about running a stationary bike business?

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                • mcski
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 11457

                  #158
                  Only when I’m on a treadmill

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                  • Skistack
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2660

                    #159
                    Originally posted by muted reborn
                    You guys read articles about running a stationary bike business?
                    Vested interest - I’ve got a Stages power meter.


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                    • The Reverend Floater
                      Southbound Pachyderm
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 9691

                      #160
                      Originally posted by TBS
                      ^^^Yup, my buddy who owns the LBS says same thing - COVID overstock is about flushed from the supply chain and order cycles are reasonable. Also sez to expect some great deals on lightly-used high-end bikes from the local destination resort.
                      I don't know. REI feels differently about that back stock, as does Sierra Trading Post. One more summer and we should be ok.

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                      "All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."

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                      • EWG
                        here to help
                        • Sep 2018
                        • 7422

                        #161
                        Originally posted by mcski
                        Only when I’m on a treadmill
                        We really need a "like" button.

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                        • XXX-er
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 34296

                          #162
                          Originally posted by The Reverend Floater
                          I don't know. REI feels differently about that back stock, as does Sierra Trading Post. One more summer and we should be ok.

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                          you mean they don't put unpopular stuff on sale to kick out ? Mec used to be like that as a coop but it changed when they got bought
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                          • El Chupacabra
                            pillowpants
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 21976

                            #163
                            Rapha the next to fall?
                            Originally posted by powder11
                            if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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                            • detrusor
                              Detrusor
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 5153

                              #164
                              Found it hard to believe Rapha even made it. Hipsters running out of money?
                              I rip the groomed on tele gear

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                              • nickwm21
                                ahhhh!
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 6496

                                #165
                                The one piece of Rapha I have - an MTB long sleeve jersey - it one of my favorite things I own. If they go under, I hope they have some great sales on the way down…


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