165 mm Crankset on shorter travel Trail bike?

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  • Duffman
    Registered User
    • Feb 2007
    • 1914

    #1

    165 mm Crankset on shorter travel Trail bike?

    I know shorter cranksets on Enduro bikes are all the rage, but is there a benefit for shorter travel trail bikes? My Ripley AF XL came stock with SLX 175mm cranks. The low BB does have some pedal strikes, and I'm more of a spinner whose always used 170mm cranks on my road bike, so I was thinking of going shorter. 170mm seemed like a good place, but I wonder if that little difference would even be worth playing around with, Any other almost 6'1 riders go to a 165mm length for a bike that they will be pedaling a lot, not a downhill or enduro sled? Pros and Cons here?
  • evdog
    DFL > DNF > DNS
    • May 2012
    • 5462

    #2
    I put 160mm Canfield cranks on my Rail. Honestly I can only feel a difference compared to my Spur with 170m cranks for about the first 10 seconds after I switch bikes. If you make the change I'd go 165 or less.

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    • gramboh
      Registered User
      • Feb 2005
      • 3300

      #3
      Can't comment on short travel, but I went from 175mm cranks on my 160mm YT Jeffsy to 165mm on my 160mm Patrol (mullet). In between switching those bikes I got my first road bike on 170mm cranks. The 165mm took a bit of getting used to, had only had that length on DH bikes before, but now I see no downside. I am also a spinner, especially climbing MTB, and have no problem getting enough torque to get up technical stuff. Bit shorter than you at 5'10, 200lbs so decent power. Biggest benefit is less pedal strikes with low BB.

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      • Terrapin Ben
        Registered User
        • Jul 2011
        • 175

        #4
        I just switched from 175 to 165 on a Scott Ransom. The goal is to reduce pedal strike. I keep telling myself how much difference can 10mm make (that's what she said)?? But I'll let you know how it goes....

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        • rideit
          Mellowing Like Vinegar
          • Nov 2005
          • 36530

          #5
          You know you want them…$850?
          LOL

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          • Duffman
            Registered User
            • Feb 2007
            • 1914

            #6
            Uh, I'm a beater. SLX level is far good enough for me and my wallet (shame I can't find any 165mm around in stock though)

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            • Duffman
              Registered User
              • Feb 2007
              • 1914

              #7
              Does a $1k crankset come with a motor?

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              • rideit
                Mellowing Like Vinegar
                • Nov 2005
                • 36530

                #8
                Sure, I’ll toss in a motor!

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                • Duffman
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1914

                  #9
                  Why is it impossible to find a Shimano SLX w 165 mm arms? Wanted to try this fairly cheaply and not need new chainring and such, but these are nowhere to be found.

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                  • joetron
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 3679

                    #10
                    Shimano is a slow moving, decisive dinosaur and is/will be far off the back on the short crank trend; likely just waiting until the trend pendulum (trendulum? - gonna trademark that)swings back to 170mm.


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                    • Boissal
                      "touring guy"
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 4429

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Duffman
                      Why is it impossible to find a Shimano SLX w 165 mm arms? Wanted to try this fairly cheaply and not need new chainring and such, but these are nowhere to be found.
                      I honestly think they must have made a batch of 100 of these and that's it. I scored one 2 years ago on a German website and feel like I was about as lucky as finding a gold bar on the sidewalk. The XT was also available at the time, never saw that one again either...
                      "Your wife being mad is temporary, but pow turns do not get unmade" - mallwalker the wise

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                      • VTskibum
                        Not a skibum
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 2802

                        #12
                        BC.com has a few in stock
                        https://www.competitivecyclist.com/s...-1x-crank-arms

                        Also 1 pair of XT
                        https://www.competitivecyclist.com/s...-1x-crank-arms

                        I've been 165 curious but haven't bothered as I don't want to get sucked into needing all 165s on a bunch of bikes

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                        • Duffman
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1914

                          #13
                          The ones they have are the 7130 / 8130 which is a super boost chainline unfortunately.

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                          • VTskibum
                            Not a skibum
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 2802

                            #14
                            Just re-read that. Good god, further proving the point that super boost is idiotic.

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                            • jmccord
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 30

                              #15
                              Thunder Mountain Bikes out of Sedona has the XT 8100 in the 165mm length in stock. I ordered one a couple weeks ago.

                              Details: Series: Deore XT M8100 Speeds: 12-speed Material: Aluminum P.C.D: Direct  Bottom bracket not included Chainring not included Shimano Deore XT FC-M8100 Crank Arms Hub Spacing:  Non-Boost (135/142mm) & Boost (141/148mm) Chainline: 52mm Q-factor: 172mm Average weight (32t): 620 grams Shimano Deore XT FC-M8120

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