21/22 Bikes That Make Your Shorts Tighter.

[simple]

The new Slash looks like a sweet bike but I'm not a fan of it using a proprietary shock.

Fits plenty of other shocks. Trek always runs something unique on the Slash.

[Dantheman]

Or a 75* STA with an effective STA likely around 70*.

Heh

[smartyiak]

Heh

So weird...b/c it looks like they could have easily made the STA about 3-5deg steeper if they wanted to.*



*I am not a materials enginerd or composites specialist.

[smmokan]

I'm not sure the rails on that saddle appreciate being clamped there.

[Bushwacka]

looks like no dropper travel either.

I am 5'9 and just fit a 210mm dropper on my M N9.....

[cydwhit]

Yeah, somebody convince me that that new Slash isn't a swing and a miss on the geo, proprietary BS, and cost fronts?

Also, the fact that Trek called it "The trail bike of trail bikes" on PB. WTF is that even supposed to mean? It has a freaking Zeb on it. Color me unimpressed.

[simple]

It's a badass race bike. You either buy it to race or to look like a racer.

Most of the big brands aren't jumping on the steep seat tube angle train.

Few if any are buying the frame alone. Shop rats don't pay $4000 for the frame. They will sell out quickly.

There are so many options these days. Few people at races are on the same bike.

[toast2266]

I really liked my 2018 Slash. But yeah, the geo on the old one looks pretty dated by modern standards, and the new one doesn't seem to go very far in fixing those issues. And it still has knock block, even though the fork doesn't hit the downtube. Not sure what the point of that is.

So yeah, while I bet it still rides well (I really like that suspension design), it isn't everything it could / should be. Which in the current market pretty much means it's a miss.

[ticketchecker]

So yeah, while I bet it still rides well (I really like that suspension design), it isn't everything it could / should be. .

Whatever happened in the Trek v. Giant legal battle over suspension designs?

[simple]

It still exists in the Pinkbike comment world

[toast2266]

Whatever happened in the Trek v. Giant legal battle over suspension designs?

I thought the trek v. giant suit was just a defective frame thing?

The main suspension related suit that I know of was dave weagle v. trek (weagle has split pivot, and he sued trek because their ABP system is pretty similar). My understanding is that the court dismissed it without anyone being declared victorious (which is essentially a win for trek). So nothing came of it, and both split pivot and ABP continue to exist.

[HankScorpio]

With the new Slash frame going for $4k, it makes me feel like the Hightower frame I paid full retail for was a bargain.

[ticketchecker]

I thought the trek v. giant suit was just a defective frame thing?

The main suspension related suit that I know of was dave weagle v. trek (weagle has split pivot, and he sued trek because their ABP system is pretty similar). My understanding is that the court dismissed it without anyone being declared victorious (which is essentially a win for trek). So nothing came of it, and both split pivot and ABP continue to exist.

right, it was DW and split pivot.

[SchralphMacchio]

And DW and Giant ...

[El Chupacabra]

Privateer announced a 141 shorter travel bike:

https://www.privateerbikes.com/products/privateer-141-complete-bike